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Updated. In the musical chairs that is Network TEN’s Mondays (seriously) comes another round of changes to keep viewers on their toes. Have some sympathy for the poor folk at Pagemasters who have to enter these into all your print guides…
Now it seems Supernatural is returning, with a double season premiere at 8:30pm Monday October 6th. The first hour screened in the US last week. A week later it screens at 9:30pm.
That pushes 90210 out to a new time of Fridays at 8:30pm, edging the movie The Bourne Supremacy to 9:30pm.
Plans for Good News Week to return at 9:30pm Monday October 6th with a clip show are now out. It’s back 8:30pm on October 13.
Fans of Burn Notice and Torchwood (TEN HD), please don’t even ask how it will affect you shows, this appears to be a moving feast within TEN programming.
At this stage Burn Notice remains out with 2 eps after Sept 29, and Torchwood is (hopefully) back 10:30pm Mon Oct 6 on TEN HD. But don’t tell your PVR just yet.
Yesterday TEN even accidentally sent out an amendment with GNW’s “Second Coming” in at 8:30pm Mon 6th, an error this site didn’t even publish. Perhaps the erratic changes are even beginning to confuse them.
As it stands here is the current line up (Melb):
Mon Oct 6
7:30pm Australian Idol
8:30pm Supernatural (Series Return)
10:30pm Ten Late News with Sports Tonight
Fri Oct 10
7:30pm America’s Next Top Model
8:30pm 90210
9:30pm Friday Night Movie – The Bourne Supremacy
11:40pm Ten Late News
12:10am Sports Tonight
12:40am The Late Show with David Letterman
Mon Oct 13 TEN HD
7:30pm Australian Idol
8:30pm Good News Week
9:30pm Supernatural
10:30pm Torchwood
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having just said that…I saw an ad for it last night while watching 90210…oh lol. but its still true…but this is only one promotion ad….if we see more..I’ll be shocked to the bone. I think Ten are worreid that people may actually watch something if they promote something…oooh…
and as for GNW, I would of thought it would of been more of a Friday night show then a Monday night show, they could easily have 90210 on before Supernatural.
To Sephiroth_FF
I think I know what you mean, I was hoping to watch Torchwood uninterrupted this year, but instead they moved it to HD straight away, I didn’t even get the chance. ( as not everyone here has, you might be lucky if you have foxtel, but again…not everyone has that either ten. )
Plus its coming onto the non-rating period as well. Which is kinda annoying for me, because this will be one reason if Supernatural doesn’t rate. and if that happens, they’ll either take it off completly, or just won’t play it uninterrupted. Also, Ten needs to promote it properly! It’s on in about 6 days, and I haven’t seen one single promotion ad for Supernatural…which makes me think if ten even cares for it. But if ten did promote it, and promote it properly and well and took care of the show, for the credit it deserves….I’m sure they could get more people into it I’m sure. If people don’t know. they aren’t going to care are they?
thank you 10! i was kinda hoping that sp was going to be aired soon after america sp deserves the monday slot back coz thats where it started thats where it should stay and i agree with Sephiroph_ff gnw always ran over time which was kinda annoying
I don’t know whether Supernatural being back is a good thing or not. I love it. It’s one of my favourite shows but if I know channel 10, it won’t be around for long. I was hoping to watch it uninterrupted and with 10, I know that’s not possible.
And 90210 on Friday? I’m not exactly boo-hooing about it being moved but do 10 know what they’re doing moving it? First, the move to Friday nights. Next, it’s pulled off completely. If they want it to rate better, putting it on Friday isn’t doing it any favours.
I don’t get why this bloody Good News Week is on before Supernatural though. They make Supernatural out to be a super-violent and gory show. It’s not. Sometimes it’s a bit violent but it’s not scary. If GNW didn’t go overtime EVERY SINGLE TIME I wouldn’t have a problem but I’m sick of missing the ending when I tape Supernatural because 10 can’t end on time!
please put back “burn notice” where it suppose to be! on monday 8:30pm….
I have to admit…I was a bit annoyed at first knowing that Supernatural would be moved to a 9-30pm time slot the week after the premiere week. But considering it doesn’t air until 9pm in the US, its not really that bad. I also can’t remember for the life of me what time Supernatural usually shows on ten anyway…. I’m also not sure what the ratings have been for Supernatural…But here’s hoping they can only get better.
There is defintally going to be some 90210 fans dissapointed by the Friday night change… ( eg..My sister, my best friend and my mum…just to start off with. ) I say this very lightly though because we all love Supernatural as well…so…you have made us happy there…………..( especailly me…) . Just to confuse us all again…..You wouldn’t consider changing 90210 to a Thursday night by any chance? Maybe not….I’m not even sure whats on Thursday nights anymore. I am thinking of what your usual teen drama nights use to be
( eg: for Dawson’s Creek…which use to be on a Thursday night, 90210 may do better for Thursdays? -shrugs- )
My god, no way I love supernatural especially Jensen Ackles (Dean) as he is so funny for his character and his brother (sam) is very serious. Can’t wait Supernatural is back for 4th season on Monday 6 October and thank you Channel 10. Great and looking forward watching it. Please keep the ratings going!!
Wasn’t supernatural ratings worse than what 90210 is getting now? Putting supernatural on friday would have been a better idea i think, then not many people would be confused.
Why not put supernatural on a tues or weds night????????
I think moving 90210 to Friday nights is horrible idea. That means it wont be fast tracked from the US as it will put us almost 2 weeks behind in episodes which is unfair and the ratings will drop off dramatically.. The show isnt designed for young kids at home on a friday night…
It is a really bad idea, which i am very annoyed about!!!
Well I’m looking forward to Supernatural coming back on, but I do have to agree with Clarrisani as well – as a consequence of Supernatural’s return, TEN have yet again burned the Torchwood and Burn Notice fans…typical!
I never said 90210 got low ratings. I said they would drop once moved to Fridays, as would most shows when moved to the death slot. Although, I reckon 90210 will outrate Supernatural once it moves to the post-GNW slot
Disagree with you CJ and RichoTB. 90210’s audience is so niche that the “low” ratings that you are referring to are actually the shows core audience. They will adjust their viewing with the show. Worse case scenario, it will come back to around 600k-650k with Next Top Model as the lead in.
Of course 90210 will lose viewers when it gets shoved in the Friday night death slot. You’d find the same thing would happen to almost any show. As for how SN does when it comes back, we’ll see. It’ll probably do around 900,000 when it premieres, but will tank after a couple of weeks.
Alex, it is hard to leave a low rating show on the air because contrary to popular belief, commercial television networks are not a community service, but a business and they have to make money from advertising. If a show is not rating, then no advertiser will pay money to advertise…so it has to go. Would any business keep producing or marketing a product if it is not selling and making money? Television networks are no different than any other business.
It’s not that complicated.
Originally it was 90210 at 8:30 with Burn Notice at 9:30.
Apart from a few interruptions, that’s been consistent.
Now 90210 isn’t performing, so Good News Week and Supernatural are being moved in, the double that did well earlier in the year. As it’s still a week until new eps of Good News Week are available, and to give Supernatural the best chance possible, they’ve gone with a double Supernatural to start at 8:30 before it goes into its regular timeslot of 9:30.
Ben
JUST FIND A SLOT FOR A TV SHOW AND LEAVE IT THERE FOR THE COMPLETE SERIES! Now was that really that hard?!?!
People thinking that 90210 would maintain 800,000 viewers are dreaming…check what it did in Sydney and Brisbane this week and then add on what it did in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth last week and it would have barely managed to get 600,000. Last year Supernatural debuted at 890,000 opposite City Homicide, and Good News Week and Supernatural worked well at the beginning of the year.
As for last minute changes…the pressure is on for all television networks all around the world to make changes immediately if shows don’t rate. It can not be compared to years ago when television was the main source of entertainment in the home. Now with downloading, dvds, internet etc, if a show does not grab the attention of viewers straight away, then chances are it won’t in the future either. That’s just the reality in today’s world where there are alot more choices and the days of the whole family sitting down together to watch a tv show are over.
Anybody here who thinks that 90210 would have grown in audience if it had stayed on Monday nights is dellusional. At least TEN have kept it on the air, and not taken it off completely.
And yay! for Good News Week and Supernatural coming back!
Thank you Network TEN, absolutely great news about the return of SUPERNATURAL.
I am looking forward to seeing some great promotion for a fantastic show leading up to and beyond October 6. This incredible gem of a show is so underrated and deserves to be well promoted for the epic story that is unfolding in season 4. In my workplace alone 40% of staff, covering an age range of 21 years to almost 50 years watch and enjoy Supernatual and the gender coverage would be fairly evenly split.
This is weird. I suggested just a couple of hrs ago on the Coming Soon page that they shift SN to Friday nights, now they seem to be doing that to 90210 instead. If they’re going to do this why don’t they just slot the final 3 BN eps on Friday nights as well? At 9:30pm. And Supernatural jumped the shark after it killed off every single female character on the show just to please the fans who want Sammy and Deany all to themselves. lolzers.
And ratings-wise, the move is a flop as well. 90210 did 800,000 in the Monday slot when it last aired in all states normally. Now they’re replacing it with SN, which got 400,000 viewers when it aired the post-writer’s strike eps in May after Rove? Doesn’t make sense. Then again, this is Ten, the corporate twits who sold Dollhouse, their best show, to Fox because they were scared about the ad time. It makes no sense.
I agree with David. There was a time when printed TV guides (prepared weeks in advance) had a very accurate schedule because networks weren’t changing schedules several times a week (or a day?) at short notice. There were of course rare instances where the printed guides were not correct, but that’s what they were – rare. It was a time when programs were allowed to run a series in their entirety without being bumped to different timeslots after one or two episodes, and when they also didn’t start 10-15 minutes later than scheduled either. I rarely watch Channel Nine but with them showing Underbelly, I was tuning in to them but couldn’t believe it wasn’t starting until at least 15 minutes later than advertised.
SUPERNATURAL IS BACK???!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!! THANK YOU!!!
Thankyou to channel 10….. for bringing Supernatural back to aussie TV.
This 4th season made a brilliant debut in the US last week with its best reviews yet. Cannot wait to see it on our screens .. it is one show I would not miss.
The post was about TEN Mondays and erratic scheduling, not downloads.
Dropping and changing shows so that they don’t match print guides, and sending out confusing, incorrect information hasn’t been going on for 35 years and isn’t related to genres. It happens to all genres, all networks. Today Hole in the Wall was dropped just hours before it was airing. In fact it’s still listed in Nine’s online guide.
I don’t believe it. Finally Ten are seeing some sense and not making us wait until “sometime in the new year” for Supernatural to return. Hallelujah!! This show is seriously underrated and deserves better recognition. It doesn’t get it in the US so it’s up to the rest of the world to give it the kudos it deserves.
Now I just hope they can keep Australian Idol’s finish on time!
Welcome to the real world of scifi/horror/fantasy/supernatural on the awful FTA networks in Australia David, you must be new to TV here in Aus, it’s been going on for 35 years mate.
Aus TV themselves spawned the illegal download generations impatient for the TV shows…….
Good Supernatural is coming back
As I sit her tonight thru the house premiere – seemingly innundated with commercials- I am annoyed by the promos for “The season premiere of LIFE”.
David ? Can’t the Network be taken to task for this, seeing these are just the tail end episodes of the first season?
yay for Good News Week and Supernatural.
YAY Supernatural is coming back on
Oh gosh….that really doesn’t make sense…! ( I know it will drive me a bit crazy to. Oh dear…. )
Yes that was updated later today. First week is double ep at 8:30. Second week moves to 9:30 to make way for GNW. Unless we get more changes.
Welcome to Mondays.
…hang on confused?? -blinks- are you saying after playing the 1st episode for season four of Supernatural at 8-30pm….the next week it will be shifted to
9-30pm? No…now I’m just really confused.
I seem to be the odd one out here, but I think 90210 on Friday is a great move. There is nothing on Fridays and while the so-called target audience will supposedly be out clubbing, I think it’s actually the younger generation without IDs who will lap up ANTM and 90210 together. 90210 will just continue to get slaughtered on Monday nights and it’s too volatile a slot to expect Ten to wait for the clubbers to build loyalty to it. If Ten can keep it consistent, even on a quiet night like Friday, it might have a chance to build an audience.
Now am I making this up or did the original 90210 air on Friday nights? X-Files in its early seasons certainly did and it was great.
Now if only they’d play Torchwood on Friday too……
Must be golden rule in Television.
Ten rotates shows on Mondays & Fridays
Nine buys sci fi shows then refuses to show them
Seven just can’t quite work out what Live sport means.
Above all, the golden rule is “Blame the Public for not watching”
P.S. David, Don’t supose you have figures at hand of how many bumped/swapped shows “just dropped out of schedule over year.
Odds are it wil average 10 per week.
Why put a show aimed specifically at youth on a Friday night? Friday nights are not a night for shows like 90210. Why bother fasttracking something if you’re not going to give it the respect it deserves? Still, my rules ring true- don’t fasttrack the first season of a show.
This feels like Smallville on Saturday nights when it used to be on Nine. The show was moved to Saturday nights, though shortly afterwards Nine started to complain no one was watching. Hmmm…. Perhaps that’s because it’s target audience were out! Seems Ten is following suit….
Honestly, I’m not bothered! SUPERNATURAL IS BACK. That is all I needed. For now.
And I love 90210, and ANTM so Friday’s finally a great night of TV!
Thanks Ten.
I blame the nerds who download the shows and then bitch about there is nothing on tv.
E.g 90210, prison break, heroes, lost.
the shows and tv networks outside the US that target a demographic under 39 cant win.
Well thats just annoying. Mondays worked perfectly for me, with Idol then 90210, with nothing on fridays. But now C10 had to go ruin that -hmph-
And on the mention of C10, what with TakeOut taking over The Simpsons at 6pm? Channel 10 at 6 is home to The Simpsons, who cares about that other show, no offence to James Kerly. Ridiculous, I say.
Programmers need to grow up and have the guts to stick to their original decisions and give viewers reasonable time to be won over by shows! Fools!
Jack!
Stanchez, that would be their trusty Criminal Minds repeats.
Well, at least Ten is consistent with one thing: screwing over the Burn Notice and Torchwood fans. Have to give them that.
I have given up on free to air tv except for the ABC and SBS. At least they seem to stick with shows through there series which gives shows time to develop and grow on you.
Its fantastic to switch onto ABC on Wednesday and know that Spicks and Specks will be on and then the next ep of the I.T. Crowd, Librarians, Hollowmen, Very Small Business etc etc will be on until the series is done. I dont have to consult my TV book or Foxtel IQ and cross my fingers hoping and praying that my fav show has not been replaced by Charlie Sheen, Gordon Ramsey or Homer Simpson.
On that point who is 7’s Sheen/Ramsey/Simpson. The old reliable that can be pulled off the bench when surprisingly Hole in the Monster House, Viva Burn Notice or Sir Alan Sugars Canal Road has been pulled because it didnt rate high enough in the first 30 seconds.
And that is why every night I go home and give my Foxtel IQ a pat on the head and thank god for pay TV.
that comedy gold tom
is ten showing double ep of 90210 on monday for vic viewers? or do i have a better chance with lotto
well this now leaves the question of with the GNW and supernatural combo, which will be 8:30pm and which will be 9:30pm? coz last time GNW came first, will they do the same again or swap them? although i prefer supernatural, i also prefer to see it unedited, and so 9:30 may be the better time so they don’t have to cut pieces out.
I just found a video of one of their lame promos that tom mentioned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0ICP1e_DWs
Wow, that was truly cringeworthy
Okay I’m confused David
So Friday the 10th will that be 90210 from the same week as the US or the week before? as having it on Friday would mean they could air it just 2.5 days after the US airs it on Wednesday morning our time.
And these changes take affect from the week after next so next Monday still has 90210?
I agree Friday might work for some as it’s a less busy night but the target audience better set the PVR as most of them will probably be out.
BTW the Supernatural season return is a good ep.
i hope next year ten completely fix up their weekly schedules. exspecially mondays, fridays and saturdays.
jaxmachine:
TEN had a pointless 2 min show at the begining of last year prior to Neighbours. It was called ‘Tonight on Ten’. It was so tryhard and they tried to be funny and make really bad puns. I love puns, but not those ones. It was so bad it only lasted a few weeks. Every show they advertised was edited so much and out of contect to make the shows sound better than they really were.
With all the changes they make these days, that show could actually come in handy.
Tonight on Ten, “Your guide might say 90210, or GNW, but surprise, it’s now Supernatural. It wont really start at 8:30, so set your PVR 8:37pm, and add an extra 10mins to the end of the recording too, as it is bound to finish after the scheduled end time. We do that to trick you into staying on TEN all night long, and to grab additonal ratings for the 1/2 hour block
See you tomorrow, unless we get axed”
Uh-oh….that cheeky work experience kid is playing havoc again!
TEN’s schedule is becoming a bit like Melbourne’s weather. If you don’t like it, wait a few minutes, it will change to something completely different !!!
Heaven’s forbid if you planned you TV watching based on what was advertised or what was on last week.
and you wonder why ten never gets the ratings
This should be a new show on TEN,- Whats on TV tonight?
My god this is crazy. Luckily I dont watch Supernatural, GNW or Burn Notice. I have seen Torchwood already and obtain 90210 via download. No wonder my Foxtel IQ has more shows on it than my FTA PVR, nothing ever seems to air or stay the same.
The target audience for 90210 are usually not home on a Friday night, so already they are losing the audience.
Why is Next Top Model on a Friday night? I could be a great lead in for the young’ns that watch Idol rather than more repeats of TGYH.
The only show I watch on TEN is Rush, that’s becasue it is Australian and I cant download it prior to the time it airs, same with City Homicide on Seven.
I think there are only about 4 shows on FTA that i watch now, Foxtel is improving and downloads are much more convenient and trust worthy.
Much Better TS For 90210 and YAY Supernatural!!