UPDATED: ONE may be launching next week to city viewers but regional television viewers will be waiting until mid year to see the new 24hr sports channel on Southern Cross Television.
Greg Dodgson, Chief Operating Officer for Macquarie Southern Cross Media, told TV Tonight the delay was caused by extensive changes to upgrade its facilities to 23 markets.
“We still haven’t built our infrastructure and we’re still testing to be able to carry it across all the sub-markets and towns in our broadcast footprint,” he said.
“We’re committed to carrying ONE but we’re still in a testing phase. And we’re still building to be able to put it across the 23 markets that we’re going to carry it in.
“It’s likely to be the middle of the year, which is not far away.”
So far some Southern Cross viewers are seeing high definition testing pictures.
“What you’re getting on the HD service is pretty pictures from around the country. It’s what we call a loop tape. That’s our programming that we’re putting out the moment because we’re building the infrastructure and testing to carry ONE.”
But not all regional viewers (ie. Central Australia) will wind up getting ONE because government regulation only requires the HD signal in specific markets.
“There’s not a requirement to broadcast in HD in those areas and you can appreciate the cost involved in broadcasting. We’re not going to put it any further afield then we’ve got to,” he conceded.
TV Tonight has made available maps of four key regional markets: in Queensland(Aggregate market A), Northern NSW (Aggregate market B), Southern NSW (Aggregate market C) and Victoria (Aggregate market D). Tasmania and Darwin maps were not supplied.
In tight economic times Dodgson concedes the arrival of ONE is a taxing challenge.
“The metros (TEN) have only got to put out in 5 markets. This takes my Playout Centre that I look after from 35 to 63 Channels. There’s nothing like it in the rest of Australia. It’s just substantial.”
SC 10 says when the time comes it will be promoting the start date on-air and in its regular program guides.
Meanwhile Foxtel, which no doubt views a 24 hour sports channel as direct competition, says the onus on adding extra channels is dependent on channels covering the costs of adding to satellite capacity. Each network has separate retransmission deals.
Foxtel cable viewers who have the IQ2 and currently receive TEN HD will be able to access ONE HD.
Until an extra satellite is launched later this year, satellite viewers in other cities will be kept waiting.
“Currently Foxtel cable subscribers have access to all FTA standard definition and FTA HD channels via Foxtel, including TEN SD and TEN HD,” said a Foxtel spokesperson. “Any additional channels launched by the FTA channels will be available to cable customers subject to each channel’s retransmission agreement.”
Until an agreement is reached over costs, the standard digital version of ONE will not be available to Foxtel viewers either.
“In relation to satellite Foxtel customers, Optus will be launching a new satellite later this year – providing additional capacity – and we may retransmit the additional Channel TEN channels subject to Channel TEN agreeing to cover the cost of obtaining the satellite capacity to retransmit its new channels.”
UPDATED 16 March: Greg Dodgson has qualified statements made in relation to SC10 owned markets (Aggregate Markets A, B, C, D) over markets that are shared with other companies (including Tasmania and Darwin). Contrary to earlier information there is a requirement to broadcast HD into Tasmania and Darwin, however they are not fully owned SC10 stations. This means Tasmanian and Darwin viewers WILL get ONE in HD on SC10 at the same time as other markets.
“I’m confident they’ll get them in the middle of the year like other viewers but we don’t fully own that signal,” said Dodgson.
SC10 also has no plans for its secondary digital channel.
“When we broadcast ONE HD in the middle of the year it will come out as HD. But we don’t have any plans yet with our SD2 channel.”
TV Tonight apologises for any confusion (particularly for Tassie & Darwin viewers!) in the ever-changing landscape that is digital television! Please note in order to avoid further confusion, previous comments relating to these markets will be deleted.
Thanks a lot for the article David. It surely clears things up about SC10 and ONE HD. As a Canberran, I think this is an absolute discrase for Australia, how Channel 10 have considered Canberra, the capital of Australia as a regional area and not began its broadcast for ONE HD here from Thursday 26th March. This is a discrae to all Australians, as for their own profits and wateva, they have left out the majoirty of australia by broadcasting the channel in only the Capital cities (Where they seem to have forgotten about Darwin, Canberra and Hobart). So anyways, whats ur validity of the information that the broadcast in Canberra and other such regional areas will definately begin in mid of this year. Whats the bet just like b4, they are gonna forget about us like with 10HD which began in 07 in Sydney and they said they would put it only in Canberra (Southern Corss) by April 08 but we never seemed to have got it before it was replaaced by ONE HD. Let’s hope they don’t do this again.
There isn’t one.
when is channel 7 going to broadcast its digital signal through foxtel(satellite) (optus d3 satellite) what is the exact date and month this is going to happen.
last night sc10 showed a ad saying ONEHD was coming soon. That is a start, but i hope coming soon does not mean 6 months later, At least somethings happening.
Will you guys be showing the 2009 NBA playoffs on One HD?
Please do Show the whole thing at a time that people such as highschoolers can watch it!!
Please.
I think it is a disgrace that yet again Regional Victoria misses out. People living in Metropolitan areas have the choice/opportunity to go and see a lot of the sport live unlike regional people. I am a huge netball fan and will miss the entire season. I see that they have scheduled one game on normal channel ten. Can you please schedule more? I don’t care what time as I can record it. Or can you please add it to the Austar package.
I used to watch netball on ABC and they moved it to ABC2 so I had to purchase a digital set top box. They then moved it to Fox Sports so I purchased pay Austar. Now it is being moved to One HD and we are unable to get it. Why give this network broadcasting rights to a sport that you are trying to build up and get support before the infrastructure is in place to deliver it?
All the work that netball has been doing to move the game forward has quickly been undone!!!
This isn’t set in stone but ONE SD looks like being added to Foxtel cable viewers by mid year. Not satellite.
Sorry I don’t know about specific sports. It’s all very new right now. Don’t forget you can check what’s coming via the Advance Guides.
David would you expect one sd to be on foxtel digital cable at some stage in april or may? What is your best guess as to when this will happen from the info you have? Many foxtel subscribers who don’t have the hd box are waiting. Do you know anything about ONE’s NBA playoff coverage like how many games they will be broadcasting, obviously ESPN and ONE will share the NBA playoff coverage similar to the regular season. I look forward to hearing from you.
“SC10 said it would air in Tassie at the same time as other SC10 affiliates ie. “mid year.” However an article on the weekend said TDT was still in negotiations.”
SC in Tas is not SC10. If SC10, rather than TDT said it its meaningless.
I would expect TDT to only show it if forced through legislation. DDT in Darwin is probably similar.
SC10 would need to make the feed available, as SC Tas is programmed through Canberra (by SC10) the same as SC10 on the rest of the east coast. So, Tas viewers need to wait on both SC10 (who themselves are unlikely to do anythign this side of 2011) and TDT – who will wait longer than that.
Still, there was only one commercial station in Tas (well, one north, one south) until the 90s, so things have improved.
Its an interesting situation in Canberra…
We are a city, so we have Foxtel
Yet we are regional so we don’t get ONE
How can this one be explained?
@ David Thanks for a great website, any idea when they are actually going to start broadcasting ONE in Canberra, the place where there is a larger income per capita than the rest of the country, and more HDTV’s per capita than the other cities?
Looks like SCTen needs a lot of work
This is f*****g bull**it!! I like many other regional victorians, have been counting down the days til ONE HD started. But when I realised on the day it was realeased that it wont be out for another couple of months i was pi**ed off. Why is it that we always get left out. I for one think it’s a disgrace that we have to wait longer than metro areas to recieve the channel. I was really looking forward to watching the NBA but by the time we recieve ONE the basketball season will be over. and then i’ll have to wait for another few months before i”l be able to watch it!
I like most regional australians am very dissapointed with SC10. With all the advertising they have been doing about oneHD in shepparton victoria they have forgot to tell the public that they have no intention of started a 24 hr sports channel in Shepparton any time soon. Many of my customers and other shepparton people are bying High Definition TV just for this channel. They are sitting at home waiting for it to start and they have no idea that it will not start. this is terrible. Channel SC ten should be advertising in every add break today saying oneHD is not here yet.
My phone is ringing off the hook now with people wanting hd equipment set up for tonight. Next week my phone will be ringing off the hook with people saying i cant get oneHD why. the answer will be ring SC 10 and complain to the for false advertising.
maybe one day country people will be shown some respect and told what is going on. People would have cared if they were told oneHD is a few months away, but they were not told this all the adds said it was here today. After speaking with SC ten i have been told oneHD is still months away and the addvertising is national not local.. This is weak.
I am most dissapointed with SC10 in delaying the start one HD they think that we are stuipid and do not relise that they are broadcasting the one start up date but are to frightend to admit to the public that we will not get this channel for a long time.
The goverment sould take there licence off them as we were told to support HD TV by buying HD tv’s but there is nothing to watch on the channels a total wast of money to up date as we will never see HD tv in Wollongond
Lets be honest Sc will not be up and running until the end of September, so we in the Regional areas will have missed out on the entire football season. its complete crap. We are and will always be treated as second rate people (and I live in the Capital). Capital have had plenty of time to get this all working, but they will not roll out individual areas, no it has to be all at the same time. that’s why it will take longer.
SC have been and will always be a rubbish platform, there license should be revoked and TEN should be made to treat all areas the same as the Metro’s
help
It is Wed night 25th March 8.30pm – and can’t find TDT-SD – channel 10
– to watch “House” – a crisis!
My screen says: no signal
What is happening ?
Is anyone out there with same problem?
Do I try to return off digital or what?
Emergency!
I have spoken with Ten Sport Management in Sydney, as well as someone from One HD department last week, and Foxtel programming department and Foxtel tech department…One SD will be on Foxtel Digital at some stage…obviously not for the Thursday March 26 launch, when Foxtel HD viewers will already be able to see One HD carry on via channel 210…Ten Sport management said with negotiations still ongoing it will likely be between a few weeks to a few months for this to happen, so Foxtel Digital viewers like myself who don’t have an HD box or a seperate set top box should be able to watch One SD via standard Foxtel Digital cable probably in April or May…definately by June at the very latest when all the other freeview channels should be launched as well…looking forward to it…alot more NBA games which will be good to see as well as live F1 qualifying and races among many other great sports…I would think One SD would be given a 500 series channel number maybe 510 so its grouped with the other sports channels…then Ten SD would be 110, One HD would be 210 and One SD would be 510…it makes sense.
Lets hope those negotiations get sorted out ASAP.
He indicated mid year, in line with other SC 10. It won’t be same launch as TEN.
Does anyone know what the hell is going on? I refer to Greg Dodgson comments (updated March 16) in the article above. He says that Tassie viewers will be getting ONE HD on the SC10 channel. Greg, can you please give us a yes or no answer. Is this correct? If so, when will we see it?
First you say yes to Tassie and Darwin and now all we are hearing in the media is that the channel isnt coming at all. Judging by your job title, if there is anyone that can give the public the correct answer it would be you. Please level with us.
SC10 said it would air in Tassie at the same time as other SC10 affiliates ie. “mid year.” However an article on the weekend said TDT was still in negotiations.
I’m still non-the-wiser after that updated quote – it says Hobart will get it at the same time as others (one would assume that is Thurs 26th March) however they then go on and say the “middle of the year”? Is this just typical political speak or what? Are Tasmanian viewers going to get One on SC10 this week or not?
Is Newcastle regional ?if so we are still waiting?:-(
I live in gippsland victoria… will it work for me?? cause im sick of looking at the bottom of the tv guide and then trying it and it never works!
This is complete bull**it. I refuse to believe that a network that’s capable of broadcasting a shithouse demo loop 24/7 is not capable of changing the channel and broadcasting something that might make them some…Money!
It’s not that hard. I will not be waiting for them to pull their finger out and decide when they want to roll this out to regional Australia. I will not be watching OneHD (or SD) when it finally comes to Newcastle. They had their chance, they’ve had more than enough time.
If you want to f*** over your audience, than your audience is going to f*** over you. You think it’s bad now. It’s only going to get worse. Between Foxtel and Channel BT, I have no need for One. I would have liked to support a FTA network that delievered me live sport (F1, MotoGP mainly). But if they’re not interesting in making sure I’m going to watch it, then I’m not going to support them with my viewing hours.
They had their chance, they blew it. I will not be watching OneHD when it finally launches. I’d advice everyone to do them same. Not watching it is really the only way to send a message that we’re not happy.
The sooner commercial stations collapse the better, they are pathetic. In Newcastle they have been broadcasting the classic HD “test images for ages”, infrastructure is already there, they just refuse to use it.
Luckily for F1 fans at least, there are alternative ways of viewing via broadband……….or in the case of Melbourne I’m going to the race instead of watching it on tv full of bloody ads at the most inappropriate times.
Reported here last Sunday. Please check News posts.
can you please tell me when we will get channel one in noosa
What a crock! Why hasn’t the infrastructure building and testing already been carried out? This whole time SC10 viewers have been left in the dark and we get an update a bit over a week before ONE is set to launch. It is pathetic. It’s too bad that Southern Cross has no competition carrying ONE transmission. I don’t understand how infrastructure and testing can be used as an excuse. A couple of months ago SC10HD were running certain shows in HD – law and order and Rove to name a couple. I saw them on my telly so I guess the infrastructure works ok. But as has been discussed on ch.10 forums it is probably more to do with not being able to insert location specific advertising. This is where their infrastructure is lacking. Either way what can we do? Guess we’ll just wait until mid-year…. Grrr
Another point is why didthe government decide to permit extra HD programming instead of extra SD programming. The government seems to be obsessed on HD TV. They should of made extra SD channels a priority instead of HD. From what I understand it is a lot easier to broadcast a secondary SD channel. Once the channel can prove than can handle a second SD channel, then allow them to create HD programming. BBC3 and BBC4 came before BBCHD. The whole notion of digital tv in Australia is screwed up. We would probably not be having this conversation if the government had regulated digital tv like the rest of the world, and made the sure it SDmultichannelling than HD multichannelling
i am very confused
i also make comment of the idiotic comment from Russell. scale of economics- what a load of bullshit. regional networks have been streaming from Metropolitan affiliates for generations now, why can’t they do the same with ONE in an SD format just like Ten will in Metro areas??
sports fans that don’t live in Metro Areas are going to be left way behind in terms of coverage, because the content that Foxtel showed that is now only on TenHD or ONEHD is unavailable to us, case point- Marcos Ambrose’s win at Watkins Glen last year (10.08.08 AEST), we read about it before we saw a 1 hour highlights package (24.08.08). Foxtel is available nationally and in NZ, and if they have the technology to do that, why don’t the FTA Metro Stations? there would be nothing stopping them broadcasting around the state on digital services! another way that we’ll miss out was touched on earlier, the Grand Prix PRIX- ONE will air 7 hours of live coverage on Friday to which we won’t see, and another 1.5 hours after F1 Qualifying on Saturday Night. we miss 2 V8 Races due to SC10. Ten is the only network that deprives fans in regional areas of sport coverage.
There are licenses for separate markets, just as Foxtel is city, Austar is regional.
SC10 should run their 2nd SD Channel just as Ten are, with ONE HD content in SD format, and they already have SD facilities hence, there should be nothing stopping them from streaming ONE SD by 26.03.09. and you would think that they would’ve started working on this operation earlier given that Ten announced it in Spring last year. what i also find amazing is that SC10 have one facility for regional Australia, unlike 10 which has 1 in each of the 5 metro areas. so if SC10 can broadcast across Australia, why can’t Ten broadcast across the state??
It sounds like the government media body was right to investigate SC owning 2 stations in the same market in both Tas and Darwin. The ONE issue proved the media laws are a big mess which often leads to confusion. If there was no 50% rule of existing stations owning Ten in both Tas and Darwin and if those markets were treated the same as other regional areas the confusion will never have happened and people would have been less emotional and angry than they are now.
Yep Macca – football fans have been staying up or getting up in the early hours for nearly 30 years thanks to SBS. Toughen up girly man!
Andrew B – what is wanted is3x the content in the best possible (and available PQ/SQ). ONE SD is not what people would be excited about but ONE HD is. As for Ten being SD only now, well, the government need to switch to MPEG 4 longterm or allocate more spectrum – no other options. 15 unique content channels in HD or better SD should be the minimum not 10xSD plus 5xHD (simulcasts). Seems a better option in the long term to limit ONE HD to HD only and use the SD allocation for something else like other new third content stream or TEN HD.
As I thought, the mixed ownership structures have lent NT and Tas to be last served in the process (seems logical). Also shows how interpretation of statements can lead to confusion in the apparent clear understanding that SC explained on the weekend. They look at it with the fact mixed ownership can prove troublesome in guaranteeing what will happen whereas Macquarie Media shoul dbe able to say yes or no to their exclusive service. Seems promising for regional viewers with such a quick clarification.
When are the new channels coming? Soooooon! Very soooooon!
I’m still waiting for channel 7 to show up on my Foxtel (satellite)!
They have been promoing ONE extensively on our DDT feed in Darwin. If they in fact don’t deliver on the start date promised – isn’t it fraud?
@Russell, ONE HD is replacing TEN HD which launched about 8-10 months ago. It should not take more than a year for SC10 to show HD content. It should be launching on TEN and SC10 at the same time. It will not be the first time that TEN has shown programs on its HD chan nel.
except russell that these promises have been made for years now, it is always just a few months away, it’s like the boy who cried wolf, they said it so much that now no one believes them.
What is the problem?
The network launches in March to major markets, and 4 months later to smaller markets. It’s called scale of economics. Larger cities usually get things before smaller cities. Waiting 4 months is not going to kill anyone…
Barry I’ve had PayTV (Austar) for years but that’s not the point, F1 has only ever been on FTA in this country, no FoxSports or other coverage and the F1 GP in Aust is a once a year event, we will never get that coverage back once it’s aired in 2 weeks. Why is it the non capital cities that always looses out, last to get things but I can accept that not everyone gets every thing at the same time. no what annoys me is I got a HDTV over a year ago for the additional HD coverage and locally we have had the ‘test pattern’ for longer than that with no signs of getting 10HD (or 9HD).
ha, so with that update this now means that once SC10 finally gets the regional parts of australia some HD service, they could end up with a better deal than the cities (probably not for many years though) because they are not dedicating 2 channels to the same content, they are willing to have 3 separate channels, unlike 10. maybe all those who missed out on 10HD exclusive shows do stand a chance of seeing them somewhere down the line on this 2nd SD channel.
Surely Tassie has the capacity to have this channel as soon as it launches on the mainland already? TDT HD [Ten HD] over here bears no test pattern – it is ten HD as it is on the mainland??
@Barry Goodtimes: you may not pay the networks directly but all the money they make comes ads which are charged by how many viewers they get so it is us the viewers who are giving the networks their business which means they should be listening to what we what so we dont switch off. i don’t see the need you have to come to a tv site and tell people off for talking about tv, no one said tv is the most important thing in the world but this is a tv site and that what people talk about hear just like people talk about sport on sport sites and tech on tech sites, that don’t mean that all we care about is tv it just means the this is a site that talks about one specific subject.
Barry Goodtimes says stop whinging and just get Foxtel. I think you are a bit of a tool and obviously live in a capital city Barry or you would know that people living in the regional areas can’t get Foxtel and are stuck with Austar who don’t have HDTV! This is the whole reason why SC10 not showing ONEHD is starting to get people upset.
@ Rob: Suggest ONE HD is here to stay, only possible change would be that ONE HD stops being full time giving way for normal 10 shows to be in HD (the biggest complaint about it) leaving ONE SD as the full time sports channel with the HD channel a combo of both (or even different content).
Its TV and It’s free so why complain about it?? None of you are putting up the cash to get these projects off the ground so you can’t really complain.. get foxtel and if that doesn’t meet your high standard of television bradcasting requirments then you can complain cause you’re actually paying for it… better yet stop watching tv and get a life
9 years ago I bought a c-band dish to pickup F1, i’d never have thought back then that I would still be needing it in 2009 to watch F1 live….as an avid F1 follower – best $500 I ever spent!
I reckon ONE is not being setup on SC10 as it’s being “trialled” in the cities, and if it’s not popular they’ll axe it and SC10 would not have wasted money setting it up regionally
Well I think that if only all Australia had access to the major channels at the very least. In central Australia they don’t even have Ten, let alone ever having OneHD. I don’t understand how we are supposedly one country yet we can’t even deliver the basics to everyone.
People have to remember that people do live out of the capital cities. No wonder people can’t be encouraged to live out in these areas, they get forgotten time and time again.
When they say “mid year”, which year are they talking about?
While we are at it, why don’t we include WIN Television in this HD farce. At least SC10 have changed their HD content (read loop) over the last eight years whereas WIN can’t even manage to do that.
My HDTV will have to be replaced by the time HD programs are scheduled on these two pathetic excuses for television stations in this so called “digital age”.
I’m over this crap.
@Rob. I have a PVR, recording the race is not an issue, I like to watch it as close to ‘live’ as I can. I hate hearing the result next day if I haven’t watched the race.
rob you are being sarcastic aren’t you
Scott (the Monto man), Seven doesn’t give a razoo about Queensland. The “Love You Queensland” revival is as hollow as Freeview. 7′s not even covering the QLD election count next Saturday, instead going for a networked schedule, while Win will take Nine’s Election coverage/50th spectacular on news.
A low shot for a network who prides itself on being “Queensland’s news leader”.
As for SCONEHD, I wouldn’t put my pumpkin on SC launching One until this time in 2010 at the rate they are going…
If Southern Cross cannot afford to run the channel, then they shouldn’t even be in the business. The testing phase story is just that, a story. They aren’t testing anything, they are just trying to figure out how to make money on it. We have seen in the past that SC10 are totally capable of retransmitting anything that is on Ten HD. When are they going to put their customers first? When will they realise that people are not going to sponsor or advertise on a channel that shows nothing but a HD loop. Its their responsibility to make the first move. Macquarie should never have been given the chance to be in control of such a large market. They appear to be way out of their depth and should have their licence removed..
@David I know 10SD will have the F1 but it’s ‘limited’ to about 10 hours over the weekend, ONE HD will have some 22 hours of extended coverage for the Aust F1GP over the weekend, which I would love to see in 2 weeks.
macca, you could get a PVR
SC10 will likely show the same amount of sport as was in 2008 as Ten will carry it on Ten SD (10) which SC10 (5) feed off.
ONE viewers will just get a dedicated channel in addition and more live events than Ten/SC10
agree with Allista. This is absolutely bollocks that again Tasmanians are treated like second class citizens by all TV carriers (SC, WIN and Austar). It is such a stupid decision when Tasmania has about 75% uptake of digital television.
F1 will still screen on TEN, as with AFL and big events.
@Craig, I’m with you mate. Once again F1 fans get screwed. Here goes another year of sitting up ’til 1 or 2am to watch the races. I’m not holding my breath for their mid-year start for the regionals. No wonder people are abandoning commercial TV in droves…
Great to have some answers or at least something sounding close to having answers rather then nothing at all in relation to SC10 and ONEHD. I get the feeling that local commercials may be the real reason for regional multi-chanelling hold backs as opposed to infrastructure issues and suggest one possible solution is to have a generic feed with a combination of national ad campaigns and network promotions to remove the need for local ads in the short term. Then each regional network could add in the ads in their own time and have ONEHD on their HD channel rather than scenery.
Gotta make a comment on this one…The Queensland map shows Monto (west of Bundaberg) as being in the distribution area to receive One, however we’re actually serviced by a signal translater at the Mulgildie Plateau site which SC10 has so far not upgraded to digital, despite the work originally being planned for July 2008 (so I was advised in October 2007). The only signal we have access to in Monto is the snowy analogue signal.
In May 2008 after a couple of emails to SC10, they conceded that “due to a number of factors including equipment availability” that the service wouldn’t be up and running until December 2008. Here we sit in March 2009 and SC10 is not answering any more of my emails to advise when they now expect the service to be active, while they rake in the advertising dollars with Harvey Norman screaming at us that digital has arrived and we should all buy a large panel.
Though I will give SC10 a couple of concessions – at least they answered a couple of my emails (WIN does not), and at least they have an email address (Seven Qld does not).
can we get it on foxtel digital
Thanks David for clarification on the colored maps, Just a pity sports fans will be left in the dark until ‘mid-year’ just because they can’t place the ads into the programing, seams like a cop-out to me when they have been running without ads for well over a year now!
BTW what is ‘mid-year’ is it anything like ‘coming soon’ or ‘fast-track’ which are nice terms but meaningless. Mid year could mean before September?
it better not take ten 5 years to come to an agreement over cost with one like it did with their main channel, by the way 7 still havn’t come to an agree with retransmission on optustv.
Which gets back to the question of “Is Digital TV a con?” Of course it is. They wouldn’t be able to sell HD televisions without the lure of HD content. The loops on WIN and SC10 have been going on longer than 12 months. I bought my first digital tv way back in 2001 and the Canadian countryside on WIN was exactly the same back then. That’s eight years they have had to sort this crap out and have done SFA about it. Me thinks that there may be a case here of false advertising and deceptive practice which could be brought before the courts.
SC Ten will not be showing One by mid-year. This is exactly the same promise I got out of them (in Canberra at least) last year regarding TenHD and the HD only programming. Nothing has happened on that front, they simulcast ordinary Ten programming if Ten does, but still do not/can not show TenHD only programming.
Bindi , SC in Tasmania are a 7/10 re-broadcaster. Ten content is being moved to TDT (digital only, but being jointly operated by WIN and SC its unlikely to take up One), and SC in Tasmania will show Seven programming. Hence, SC has no rights to no One, on either SD or HD. They should end up showing SevenHD – but probably won’t. Tasmania only has two commercial networks on analogue. WIN as a Nine affiliate, Southern Cross as a 7/10 affiliate moving to a pure Seven basis (except, for this year at least, with 10′s AFL broadcasts). I’m not sure in what SC broadcast in Darwin, but from a quick look on Wikipedia it looks like SC in Darwin is going through the same thing as in Tasmania. i.e. going from being a 7/10 affiliate to being a 7 only affiliate, while Ten programming goes onto a digital only (DDT) platform. SC therefore do not, as SC at least, have any responsibility for OneHD or OneSD. Both TDT and DDT have some SC ownership, along with the local Nine affiliate.
i correct my statement about sc10 and foxtel finally giving info on one as it sound like you sough them out not the other ways around, if you hadn’t asked them i wonder when sc10 and foxtel would have released this info as there isn’t much time left till launch, they probably would have just let viewers find out for them selves on march 26
Being more awake now than I was when i first commented – SC are full of it. They were always able to show programs on SC Ten HD (Ch 50) when the programme was available in HD (NCIS, House etc). They showed the Superbowl. They had that ‘MyTalk’ crap on a second SD Channel a few years ago. Which would indicate to me that they do indeed have the ability to broadcast both a HD channel and a second SD Channel.
I’ve heard a few mentions (including a comment on this article) that the delay is due to their inability to insert advertising into the feed – surely can’t be that hard if they can manage to do it with the regular ten feed. Maybe if they pulled their heads out of their a***s they could figure it out!
The coloured areas on those maps are the markets that are regulated to show HD, therefore they are the 23 areas that SC 10 intends to show ONE in HD by mid year.
Peta, thanks for the Syd IQ2 info, you’re more accurate than my Foxtel source! I must admit researching this story was a bit of a nightmare. I trust ultimately it has been of some help to those desperate for answers.
Sameer there is no ONE SD earlier on SC 10 as far as I know.
those in the regional markets must get so annoyed always hearing about the mutichannels but never getting to see them, their pretty much saying screw you to those customer who will never receive one as it cheaper not to give you access, just shows they care more about profits than their viewers
i wish foxtel could carry onesd from the beginning so i could at least watch it on the second tv in the kitchen which does not have a digital tuner but has foxtel if someone else is watching the tv in the lounge, at least sc10 and foxtel have finally cleared up if they could be carry one or not even if its bad news although they could have told us this earlier than one week before launch.
Well that doesn’t surprise anyone with sc10, if they cant get there act together on HD why dont they show ONE on similcast on SD in regional areas. We have 2 SD channels here in gippsland on channel 5 and 55 so I dont see why 1 of them can’t be showing ONE from the start.
SC10 need to get off there backsides and start looking after the people that have made them what they are today as if theyd didnt hae the regional support from people they would not exist………..
Just to clarify TEN HD is not transmitted to Foxtel satellite customers even people with iQ2 in Sydney.
If the Loop we’re seeing at the moment is (in Canberra) is because “building the infrastructure and testing to carry ONE” then what was it doing for the last 12 months before ONE existed? Sounds like a load to me.
SC were perfectly capable of showing the Superbowl and endless HD loops but rebroadcasting ONE is a technical challenge that requires further testing? Please. Sounds more like SC has agreed to tow the Freeview line and talk circles and never give any legit answers.
Over the credits of ‘Ice Age: The Meltdown’ that was on SC Ten last night, we got a lovely 2-3 minute promo about One HD starting in 12 days time. Obviously, its not, and this promo was intended for Ten viewers – it’d be nice if SC Ten could have inserted some other show promos over the top of that one!
thanks for seeking clarification from SC, David. It’s nice to know that they will carry One eventually.
Whilst I can appreciate the fact that they have a lot more regions to broadcast into than Ten does, they’ve had many years to get moving on this. Hopefully they can get it up and running by mid-year/
Hi, I didn’t get a chance to read the full story, but I did skim through it, and I was wondering, are the different colours areas where ONE will be broadcast?
Thanks
“It’s likely to be the middle of the year, which is not far away.”
It is when you want to see the extended Australian F1 coverage in 2 weeks time!
And what infrastructure? Here in the WideBay area we’ve had their “pretty pictures from around the country” test 10HD on ch50 and 2nd 10 SD on ch55 for well over a year, flick a switch and it would be on here!
As for Foxtel well that is only available in areas most likely to get ONE HD, regional areas use Austar will still be left out! And we have NO access to 7, 9 or 10 only ABC1&2 and SBS.
BTW what do those maps mean? they have pretty colours but no info as to what they mean…
I don’t believe SC10 for a moment. The reason for the delay is they haven’t the ability to put local commercials into the 1HD feed. They have already shown that they can relay the 10HD signal without any problems.
Thanks David for finally breaking the wall of silence that SC was putting up. As a regional viewer it is so annoying to constantly have to listen to excuse after excuse as to why we cannot have access to the same HD broadcasts as capital city markets,yet we have no problem getting the same SD broadcasts.
What i would like to see is Foxtel or another player/s come into the market as a fourth FTA commercial entity and have all the other FTA commercials (7,9,10,WIN,Prime,SC ) stripped of their channels ( both SD & HD ) if they do not or cannot supply actual programming content 24/7 – not loops of barns in the countryside – to all or individual markets.
I know i didn’t buy a HD set to look at the same barn over and over again. In this day and age there is no reason why any market should not have access to the same content as everyone else. Funniest thing is these guys wonder why their viewers are in decline. Now lets see what WIN and Prime are going to do.
@David, did you ask them ask if they will broadcasting ONE in standard definiton any earlier on SC10. Thanks for getting some answers though.