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	<title>Comments on: ABC &amp; WIN combine for giant playout centre</title>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/07/abc-win-combine-for-giant-playout-centre.html/comment-page-1#comment-79106</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: The going ons of the WIN and ABC or Nork or TEN...
Who cares at this stage.... The boys and gals in the suits are telling the boards of directors what is the more viable way forward. Will it work or not, again who cares... In televison land the show always goes on regardless of how it gets to air and that is the way it has always been.  State of the Art playout centres a la BBC in London.. yeah bring it on plenty of capable people out there looking forward to these sort of gigs. If it doesn&#039;t work; again... plenty of capable people out there will get the big bucks to decommision and set up again where it all came from.

Capable person....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: The going ons of the WIN and ABC or Nork or TEN&#8230;<br />
Who cares at this stage&#8230;. The boys and gals in the suits are telling the boards of directors what is the more viable way forward. Will it work or not, again who cares&#8230; In televison land the show always goes on regardless of how it gets to air and that is the way it has always been.  State of the Art playout centres a la BBC in London.. yeah bring it on plenty of capable people out there looking forward to these sort of gigs. If it doesn&#8217;t work; again&#8230; plenty of capable people out there will get the big bucks to decommision and set up again where it all came from.</p>
<p>Capable person&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheddar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheddar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Seven?

They have a you beaut facility at Docklands &amp; Ten have a state of the art facility at Pyrmont. 

Meanwhile Nine&#039;s Sydney on-air facility is old &amp; needs rejuvenation or replacement. My money will stay on them for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Seven?</p>
<p>They have a you beaut facility at Docklands &#038; Ten have a state of the art facility at Pyrmont. </p>
<p>Meanwhile Nine&#8217;s Sydney on-air facility is old &#038; needs rejuvenation or replacement. My money will stay on them for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: vid</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/07/abc-win-combine-for-giant-playout-centre.html/comment-page-1#comment-77125</link>
		<dc:creator>vid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it may be seven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it may be seven.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheddar</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/07/abc-win-combine-for-giant-playout-centre.html/comment-page-1#comment-77044</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheddar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new WIN/ABC combined playout centre would have to courting Nine to join up with them, especially considering Nine almost signed up with Red Bee to out-source their operations a few months ago. They&#039;re obviously interested in this direction.

And yes &quot;a person&quot;, Foxtel would be interested to have a back-up facility. They presently have no disaster recovery for their current centre.

Yes, perhaps on the outset a strange combination of companies, but given they both have national coverage, they&#039;re actually probably a better fit then say ABC &amp; Nine for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new WIN/ABC combined playout centre would have to courting Nine to join up with them, especially considering Nine almost signed up with Red Bee to out-source their operations a few months ago. They&#8217;re obviously interested in this direction.</p>
<p>And yes &#8220;a person&#8221;, Foxtel would be interested to have a back-up facility. They presently have no disaster recovery for their current centre.</p>
<p>Yes, perhaps on the outset a strange combination of companies, but given they both have national coverage, they&#8217;re actually probably a better fit then say ABC &amp; Nine for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: a person</title>
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		<dc:creator>a person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 3rd channel will be Foxtel. maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 3rd channel will be Foxtel. maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: vid</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/07/abc-win-combine-for-giant-playout-centre.html/comment-page-1#comment-76854</link>
		<dc:creator>vid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ hawker
your statement is wrong!
u have no idea!!   they were told what was going and  what  was told what will happen to their jobs.  no one was sacked. but they were all very disappointed.
and there is a rumour that there is a third station involved in this as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ hawker<br />
your statement is wrong!<br />
u have no idea!!   they were told what was going and  what  was told what will happen to their jobs.  no one was sacked. but they were all very disappointed.<br />
and there is a rumour that there is a third station involved in this as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WIN WA used to carry TEN News until WIN bought STW9. WIN used to operate out of NEW10&#039;s building until WIN bought STW9. WIN was being screwed by Nine over affiliation fees, so WIN taught Nine a lesson by switching SA affiliation to Seven. No, WIN is not &quot;like Channel Nine&quot;. Nine doesn&#039;t own any shares in WIN. WIN is a Nine affiliate, except in SA, and in WA they carry a significant amount of TEN programming. And they&#039;re hardly merging WIN &amp; ABC. Not much different to the company owned by ATN7 and TEN in Sydney to operate their combined transmission facility at Artarmon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WIN WA used to carry TEN News until WIN bought STW9. WIN used to operate out of NEW10&#8217;s building until WIN bought STW9. WIN was being screwed by Nine over affiliation fees, so WIN taught Nine a lesson by switching SA affiliation to Seven. No, WIN is not &#8220;like Channel Nine&#8221;. Nine doesn&#8217;t own any shares in WIN. WIN is a Nine affiliate, except in SA, and in WA they carry a significant amount of TEN programming. And they&#8217;re hardly merging WIN &#038; ABC. Not much different to the company owned by ATN7 and TEN in Sydney to operate their combined transmission facility at Artarmon.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops! I need to make a few corrections to my last post...

I moved into a lovely rock February last year &amp; didn&#039;t realise that the deal between SBS &amp; Red Bee fell through. So, maybe SBS will be looking to join the new ABC/WIN joint venture in the future?

Red Bee Australia is a subsidiary of the UK firm of the same name &amp; isn&#039;t owned by BBC anymore.

Also, the 50/50 board representation between ABC &amp; WIN seems fair at a second glance. Only because WIN have 32 separate markets to serve (if we also include Nine Perth &amp; Adelaide), while ABC1 only has 8 markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! I need to make a few corrections to my last post&#8230;</p>
<p>I moved into a lovely rock February last year &amp; didn&#8217;t realise that the deal between SBS &amp; Red Bee fell through. So, maybe SBS will be looking to join the new ABC/WIN joint venture in the future?</p>
<p>Red Bee Australia is a subsidiary of the UK firm of the same name &amp; isn&#8217;t owned by BBC anymore.</p>
<p>Also, the 50/50 board representation between ABC &amp; WIN seems fair at a second glance. Only because WIN have 32 separate markets to serve (if we also include Nine Perth &amp; Adelaide), while ABC1 only has 8 markets.</p>
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		<title>By: TVTonightKiiD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TVTonightKiiD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t WIN like channel nine?
if so, then its like saying ten and abc merging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t WIN like channel nine?<br />
if so, then its like saying ten and abc merging.</p>
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		<title>By: Smacca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smacca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kenny
Quote: &quot;he’s after TEN. He already uses a lot of their programming in WA and uses Seven 100% in SA, chosen in preference to Nine. &quot;

He may very well be after Ten, but the WA and SA channels are hardly an example of this. Nine&#039;s ratings were taking a hit at the time and WIN had an obligation to it&#039;s viewers and most of all advertisers to deliver the goods. They made use of Seven&#039;s success in an area without Seven.  As for WA, I wouldn&#039;t say WIN use &quot;a lot&quot; of Ten programming. It&#039;s scarce, and only a handful of shows get a spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kenny<br />
Quote: &#8220;he’s after TEN. He already uses a lot of their programming in WA and uses Seven 100% in SA, chosen in preference to Nine. &#8221;</p>
<p>He may very well be after Ten, but the WA and SA channels are hardly an example of this. Nine&#8217;s ratings were taking a hit at the time and WIN had an obligation to it&#8217;s viewers and most of all advertisers to deliver the goods. They made use of Seven&#8217;s success in an area without Seven.  As for WA, I wouldn&#8217;t say WIN use &#8220;a lot&#8221; of Ten programming. It&#8217;s scarce, and only a handful of shows get a spot.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeys</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but what is a &quot;play out centre&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but what is a &#8220;play out centre&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! What a complete shock to read about these two networks hopping into bed together. I&#039;ve never seen such a bizarre pairing since Scarlett Johansson &amp; Ryan Reynolds got married. 

For massive play-out centres, I had my money on ABC joining SBS at the BBC owned Red Bee to centralise transmission from there; &amp; of course, WIN together with PBL-Nine &amp; Imparja would&#039;ve been a natural fit for national programming.

Apart from the loss of jobs on both sides, this may be good for Internet &amp; HD viewers of ABC state-based programming, as they may finally be able to upload each &amp; every 7pm news &amp; Stateline to formats like iView &amp; split the signal of ABC-HD after 7pm &amp; 8:30pm.

As for the make-up of the new organisation&#039;s board: I think ABC should have a few more than WIN Corp because ABC&#039;s transmission covers more geography. Yet, that might&#039;ve been the bribe to get WIN on board (pardon the pun).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! What a complete shock to read about these two networks hopping into bed together. I&#8217;ve never seen such a bizarre pairing since Scarlett Johansson &amp; Ryan Reynolds got married. </p>
<p>For massive play-out centres, I had my money on ABC joining SBS at the BBC owned Red Bee to centralise transmission from there; &amp; of course, WIN together with PBL-Nine &amp; Imparja would&#8217;ve been a natural fit for national programming.</p>
<p>Apart from the loss of jobs on both sides, this may be good for Internet &amp; HD viewers of ABC state-based programming, as they may finally be able to upload each &amp; every 7pm news &amp; Stateline to formats like iView &amp; split the signal of ABC-HD after 7pm &amp; 8:30pm.</p>
<p>As for the make-up of the new organisation&#8217;s board: I think ABC should have a few more than WIN Corp because ABC&#8217;s transmission covers more geography. Yet, that might&#8217;ve been the bribe to get WIN on board (pardon the pun).</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millions of $$$$$$ has been wasted at Ultimo.
Now ABC management are going to join up with a pack of backyard cowboys.
WIN&#039;s signal might get better but ABC&#039;s will get worse.
WIN techs thought they could run a station without a backup Generator by using 2 separate mains power feeds - unfortunately they both came from the same sub station and Murphy struck with a vengance.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millions of $$$$$$ has been wasted at Ultimo.<br />
Now ABC management are going to join up with a pack of backyard cowboys.<br />
WIN&#8217;s signal might get better but ABC&#8217;s will get worse.<br />
WIN techs thought they could run a station without a backup Generator by using 2 separate mains power feeds &#8211; unfortunately they both came from the same sub station and Murphy struck with a vengance&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: David @ Green Point</title>
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		<dc:creator>David @ Green Point</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been tipping a young Murdoch would snap up 10 and Gordon the 9 Network by the end of this year. Maybe the two names could be switched, perhaps...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been tipping a young Murdoch would snap up 10 and Gordon the 9 Network by the end of this year. Maybe the two names could be switched, perhaps&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tere&#039;s more on this story on Crikey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tere&#8217;s more on this story on Crikey.</p>
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		<title>By: pietro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything that might improve the woeful technical quality of WIN would be welcome. eg sound levels on HD channel vary  from inaudible to raucous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything that might improve the woeful technical quality of WIN would be welcome. eg sound levels on HD channel vary  from inaudible to raucous.</p>
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