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		<title>By: franz chong</title>
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		<dc:creator>franz chong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would rather a Family Guy and other comedies fill the line up in the timeslot between 6:30 and 8:30pm than this DWTS garbage.It would do a lot to the ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rather a Family Guy and other comedies fill the line up in the timeslot between 6:30 and 8:30pm than this DWTS garbage.It would do a lot to the ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idol rocks... only problem is we all know that the real show starts at the top 12 and have become uninterested in the whittling down process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idol rocks&#8230; only problem is we all know that the real show starts at the top 12 and have become uninterested in the whittling down process.</p>
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		<title>By: Tepee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tepee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get into Idol last year but I&#039;m really enjoying it this year.  Delta Goodrem was a good judge last night and Marcia Hines&#039; deadpan reaction to dud auditionees was hilarious!  Didn&#039;t watch Dancing but Gerrard still being there and Jess being voted out is just terrible (good for ratings tho!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get into Idol last year but I&#8217;m really enjoying it this year.  Delta Goodrem was a good judge last night and Marcia Hines&#8217; deadpan reaction to dud auditionees was hilarious!  Didn&#8217;t watch Dancing but Gerrard still being there and Jess being voted out is just terrible (good for ratings tho!).</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Idol started everyone was obsessed in it, now 7 years later - everyone hates it for some reason. Well I think Idol is must see TV and people should stop dissing it because of Kyle. Hes gone so everyone should get over it! Its still Idol and its changed a little but its Idol. I agree that the audition shows have been really poor and have lacked in that talent but its the performance shows that really show the talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Idol started everyone was obsessed in it, now 7 years later &#8211; everyone hates it for some reason. Well I think Idol is must see TV and people should stop dissing it because of Kyle. Hes gone so everyone should get over it! Its still Idol and its changed a little but its Idol. I agree that the audition shows have been really poor and have lacked in that talent but its the performance shows that really show the talent.</p>
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		<title>By: it's a joke</title>
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		<dc:creator>it's a joke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DWTS !!!! what a joke,   The  highest scorer on many nights is out , and the lowest scorer every week is still in. This has to be a bad joke , where is there any fairness in this, I was under the impression DWTS was based on dancing not sympathy..Very sorry to see you go  Jess, rest assured I won&#039;t be watching this set up crap any more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DWTS !!!! what a joke,   The  highest scorer on many nights is out , and the lowest scorer every week is still in. This has to be a bad joke , where is there any fairness in this, I was under the impression DWTS was based on dancing not sympathy..Very sorry to see you go  Jess, rest assured I won&#8217;t be watching this set up crap any more</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta agree with Janey.  If a show has an average age of 55, think about it mathematically. For every 40 year old watching, there is a 70 year old watching. For every 25 year old watching, there is a 85 year old watching. Or more likely, for every 25 year old watching, there are two 70 year olds watching. I&#039;m guessing only 30% of DWTS audience is under 50. This is a very old audience!

And while there is nothing necessarily wrong with this, we all know it is much more difficult to get under 50s watching tv these days. How many successful young-skewing local shows have 7 and 9 got in their schedule? Nine have tried and failed on all occassions, and Seven with not much more success. Ten faces a much harder task when it comes to winning an audience for any of their shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta agree with Janey.  If a show has an average age of 55, think about it mathematically. For every 40 year old watching, there is a 70 year old watching. For every 25 year old watching, there is a 85 year old watching. Or more likely, for every 25 year old watching, there are two 70 year olds watching. I&#8217;m guessing only 30% of DWTS audience is under 50. This is a very old audience!</p>
<p>And while there is nothing necessarily wrong with this, we all know it is much more difficult to get under 50s watching tv these days. How many successful young-skewing local shows have 7 and 9 got in their schedule? Nine have tried and failed on all occassions, and Seven with not much more success. Ten faces a much harder task when it comes to winning an audience for any of their shows.</p>
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		<title>By: David Knox</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Knox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TEN says the average age of MasterChef was 36.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TEN says the average age of MasterChef was 36.</p>
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		<title>By: Tash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe Jess is gone, and Gerrard is still in?? She had talent, and he, well he is inspirational and thats it. He is getting sympathy votes, and its unfair on the rest. I would have thought Jess had a bigger fan base :/ Oh well :( 

Only 3 of my fav couples are left. I hope Matt wins &lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant believe Jess is gone, and Gerrard is still in?? She had talent, and he, well he is inspirational and thats it. He is getting sympathy votes, and its unfair on the rest. I would have thought Jess had a bigger fan base :/ Oh well <img src='http://www.tvtonight.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Only 3 of my fav couples are left. I hope Matt wins &lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: damo</title>
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		<dc:creator>damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7 would be extremely over the moon about gerrard not being voted out. this make them think their image in the comunity towards blind people is great. he is a terrible dancer and the judges are right when they bag his dancing. but that plays into 7&#039;s hands. idol is dead, it&#039;s time it got put ot in the pasture. it struggled last year as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7 would be extremely over the moon about gerrard not being voted out. this make them think their image in the comunity towards blind people is great. he is a terrible dancer and the judges are right when they bag his dancing. but that plays into 7&#8242;s hands. idol is dead, it&#8217;s time it got put ot in the pasture. it struggled last year as well</p>
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		<title>By: Brodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idol has not clicked this season. I think it&#039;s a mix of poor talent and genuine lack of interest in a tiered format.

@ Janey. Despite skewing older, DWTS is clearly a success. It has skewed old every season, and it is now into its ninth. The way it is ratng this season I guarantee you it will be back for a tenth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idol has not clicked this season. I think it&#8217;s a mix of poor talent and genuine lack of interest in a tiered format.</p>
<p>@ Janey. Despite skewing older, DWTS is clearly a success. It has skewed old every season, and it is now into its ninth. The way it is ratng this season I guarantee you it will be back for a tenth.</p>
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		<title>By: Boy Wonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boy Wonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerrard has to go. The idea was interesting, having a blind person on the show but now it&#039;s just cruel. How will they top this? Next year have someone in a wheelchair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerrard has to go. The idea was interesting, having a blind person on the show but now it&#8217;s just cruel. How will they top this? Next year have someone in a wheelchair?</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Channel Ten deserves its low ratings for Idol - they&#039;ve just sacked Sandipants for his humiliating treatment of a 14 year old strapped to a lie detector yet last night the producers of Idol deliberately allowed wannabe contestants (who can&#039;t sing) to come on stage and basically humiliate themselves - there is no way any of these poor devils would have made it past the first online audition process yet Idol in its pursuit of exploitainment dragged one asian girl who could barely speak english onstage to audition - one off stage audition would have been enough for the producers to say no thanks but they deliberately allowed this girl on stage.   Deltra Goodrem sat there giggling while this poor asian girl nervously attempted to sing - any one of the judges could have stopped her after 5 seconds and said that&#039;s fine but they allowed her to sing for what seemed like eternity while they all pulled faces and giggled while this girl humiliated herself -after pulling stupid faces throughout this excruitating audition the judges very bluntly told the girl she was awful. Unfortunately because her english was poor  she actually thought she was being complimented until dicko, using all the charm of a blunt razor bluntly reminded her again that she was terrible.

It was cringeworthy television that could have come straight from the Vile and Tacky O cringe files!  

Seriously Channel Ten don&#039;t take the moral high ground with Sandipants if you&#039;re going allow this crap to continue...And Delta you seriously lost credibility by sitting there and pretending to care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Channel Ten deserves its low ratings for Idol &#8211; they&#8217;ve just sacked Sandipants for his humiliating treatment of a 14 year old strapped to a lie detector yet last night the producers of Idol deliberately allowed wannabe contestants (who can&#8217;t sing) to come on stage and basically humiliate themselves &#8211; there is no way any of these poor devils would have made it past the first online audition process yet Idol in its pursuit of exploitainment dragged one asian girl who could barely speak english onstage to audition &#8211; one off stage audition would have been enough for the producers to say no thanks but they deliberately allowed this girl on stage.   Deltra Goodrem sat there giggling while this poor asian girl nervously attempted to sing &#8211; any one of the judges could have stopped her after 5 seconds and said that&#8217;s fine but they allowed her to sing for what seemed like eternity while they all pulled faces and giggled while this girl humiliated herself -after pulling stupid faces throughout this excruitating audition the judges very bluntly told the girl she was awful. Unfortunately because her english was poor  she actually thought she was being complimented until dicko, using all the charm of a blunt razor bluntly reminded her again that she was terrible.</p>
<p>It was cringeworthy television that could have come straight from the Vile and Tacky O cringe files!  </p>
<p>Seriously Channel Ten don&#8217;t take the moral high ground with Sandipants if you&#8217;re going allow this crap to continue&#8230;And Delta you seriously lost credibility by sitting there and pretending to care!</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Craig H

Actually Jess came third on the leaderboard since both dances scores were combined then our votes were added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Craig H</p>
<p>Actually Jess came third on the leaderboard since both dances scores were combined then our votes were added.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With more than 5 million Aussies in metropolitan cities sitting in front of their TV, it seems the networks have a variety of shows the people want to watch on a Sunday night.

Network Ten has an interesting spin on the night. They report for their target  audience (18-49) and (16-39)  they won the night, and they were up on last year&#039;s figures in the first hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With more than 5 million Aussies in metropolitan cities sitting in front of their TV, it seems the networks have a variety of shows the people want to watch on a Sunday night.</p>
<p>Network Ten has an interesting spin on the night. They report for their target  audience (18-49) and (16-39)  they won the night, and they were up on last year&#8217;s figures in the first hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jerome.
I fully agree with you, however it was pointed out in a DWTS forum that the contest is as much for your &#039;favourite&#039; celebrity as &#039;best&#039; dancer.
I really think it&#039;s time to vote Gerrard off,  as many are saying the show has been rigged for him to win.... who knows ?

I guess I will keep watching as I think Matt White is the biggest improver, I doubt  he will win but  Kylie could.   Perhaps all of us &quot;over 55 Ch Seven viewers &quot; should  pick up the phone and vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jerome.<br />
I fully agree with you, however it was pointed out in a DWTS forum that the contest is as much for your &#8216;favourite&#8217; celebrity as &#8216;best&#8217; dancer.<br />
I really think it&#8217;s time to vote Gerrard off,  as many are saying the show has been rigged for him to win&#8230;. who knows ?</p>
<p>I guess I will keep watching as I think Matt White is the biggest improver, I doubt  he will win but  Kylie could.   Perhaps all of us &#8220;over 55 Ch Seven viewers &#8221; should  pick up the phone and vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Janey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh David...again with the emphasis on total people!  By all means mention that Dancing With The Stars won its timeslot in total people, but don&#039;t you think it&#039;s worth mentioning that Idol won easily in 18-49 &amp; 16-39?  Don&#039;t you think that is relevant to the story?
I cannot believe anyone with any knowledge of ratings or the tv industry would honestly think that any show with an average age of 55 years is a success!  That is the average age!  That means there are still a lot of people older than 55 making up those total people numbers.
Masterchef may have broadened out Ten&#039;s demographics, but there is no way Masterchef&#039;s average age would have been anywhere near 55!  Only shows on Seven or Nine have viewers that most advertisers are not interested in propping up their shows.  A good ego boost for stories like this, but really doesn&#039;t mean much.
Also, Dancing is down over 100,000 from 2 weeks ago, so Idol is not the only show to have lost viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh David&#8230;again with the emphasis on total people!  By all means mention that Dancing With The Stars won its timeslot in total people, but don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s worth mentioning that Idol won easily in 18-49 &amp; 16-39?  Don&#8217;t you think that is relevant to the story?<br />
I cannot believe anyone with any knowledge of ratings or the tv industry would honestly think that any show with an average age of 55 years is a success!  That is the average age!  That means there are still a lot of people older than 55 making up those total people numbers.<br />
Masterchef may have broadened out Ten&#8217;s demographics, but there is no way Masterchef&#8217;s average age would have been anywhere near 55!  Only shows on Seven or Nine have viewers that most advertisers are not interested in propping up their shows.  A good ego boost for stories like this, but really doesn&#8217;t mean much.<br />
Also, Dancing is down over 100,000 from 2 weeks ago, so Idol is not the only show to have lost viewers.</p>
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