7TWO: day one

By David Knox on November 2, 2009 / Filed Under News 46

7tDay One for 7TWO was a modest debut -but then, nobody, including Seven execs, was expecting it to make a big splash just yet. It will take some time to create awareness, and its better titles are not until mid-week anyway.

7TWO finished with 1.8% compared to GO! on 4.2%, ONE had 2.1%, ABC2 0.4% and SBS2 0.3%.

82,000 watched the channel launch at 12pm, with 88,000 averaging for the Michael Jackson concert that followed.

But Seven had a huge Sunday share overall.

Seven had a clean sweep of the top five programmes on Sunday night, with The Force #1 with 1.51m viewers. Who would have thought a factual about cops on the beat could be so strong this long after its debut? Or is it that viewers are unhappy with alternatives? It thumped 60 Minutes on 964,000 and Australian Idol on 942,000. Rainforest was even lower on 764,000. Even Who Do You Think You Are? took a slight drop to 382,000 for SBS.

Seven was the only network to pull an audience over 1.1m. While officially it isn’t a long weekend in Melbourne, some viewers may be treating it that way.

Electric Dreams tanked for TEN on just 592,000 -there are two more specials to go. Not enough people seemed to care for the idea of watching Brits doing it the hard way with black and white tellys and a tiny fridge. It’s a long way from the escapism of Merlin.

Wipeout managed 211,000 on GO!

While Nine may have lost its double act lead now that 7TWO is on the scene, even without the new channel Seven would still have won yesterday.

Week 45

46 Comments »

  1. Carta November 3, 2009 at 12:35 pm -

    I live on the Gold Coast and have exactly the same problem as bel in Sydney – Program info is 7Two, image is Seven.

  2. bindi November 3, 2009 at 6:41 am -

    that’s a strange one Bel, does your machine have any sort of return to factory settings option? have you tried disconnecting it from the power supply for a while and then plugging it back in and rescanning again? if nothing works give the company that made your STB a call and see what they suggest.

  3. Bel November 2, 2009 at 10:38 pm -

    I live in Sydney and can’t get 7two. I get the EPG programming of 7two but the picture is 7. I have rescanned channels to no avail. I didn’t have any trouble getting GO. Can anyone help

  4. David Knox November 2, 2009 at 10:22 pm -

    Thanks Johnson. Gets back to that point about real estate….

  5. Johnson November 2, 2009 at 9:56 pm -

    @Craig, Andrew and KFed: TV Week did not include 7Two in the guide for this week (November 1-6), however 7Two is in the list of digital multichannels for next week (November 7-13). It did so at the expense of SBS Two, with foreign language news bulletins omitted from its schedule (replaced by simply “Worldwatch”).

  6. jh November 2, 2009 at 8:53 pm -

    apologies, just had to rescan my channels!

  7. Jack! November 2, 2009 at 8:52 pm -

    Very few watched because, as I said at the start, the first 24 hours was boring!
    It remains mostly boring until Wednesday, due to Melbourne Cup holidays etc … things really get happening on Wednesday … Shortland Street, Coronation Street, and Emmerdale from 2pm every day … not to mention Ugly Betty, Reaper, Heroes, etc …
    Until then it is a waste of time to discuss how it rates …
    Jack!

  8. jh November 2, 2009 at 7:17 pm -

    Can someone confirm whether 72 is currently working in melbourne?

    I just started using a particular set-top box for the first time since launch,
    and on CH 72 “seven digital 2 (or somesuch)”

    I’m getting a simulcast of channel 7.

    Am i doing something wrong, or is 72 melbourne screwing up?

  9. tasmanian devil November 2, 2009 at 7:13 pm -

    Wow I was in the minority yesterday. I watched Rainforest and Electric Dreams. Is it just that I haven’t been watching much of Ten lately or have they not run a promo for Electric Dreams, perhaps it explains the low ratings? Electric Dreams seemed rather lavish too. A major renovation of the house (in one day), all the bygone contrivances etc.

  10. Neon Kitten November 2, 2009 at 7:08 pm -

    7TWO needs to move the watermark to the corner of the screen. It’s huge, it’s distracting, and it’s right in the middle of my field of view.

    Not that I know what’s on the channel at the moment, since IceTV can’t list any of the channel’s shows lest they get sued… Ah well, guess Seven doesn’t want everyone to list their new channel’s programs after all. Fail.

  11. daqua_99 November 2, 2009 at 6:11 pm -

    While I didn’t personally like the line-up last night, it should get better. I also believe it will have a much larger audience share than Go does because of all the cross promoting. I don’t see much promotion on Nine for Go, but I am seeing a Lot of promotion on 7 for 7Two. That’s the good thing about it not being a different name, people will already know the brand “Seven” and will watch it because of it.

  12. Lyn November 2, 2009 at 5:02 pm -

    As a child of the 70′s, I thought “Electric Dreams” was hysterical!
    It was quite nostalgic for me, remembering how it was growing up!
    So, I actually enjoyed it.
    (But then I usually do like what a lot of others don’t!) ;)

  13. Lyn November 2, 2009 at 5:00 pm -

    I didn’t think much of 7Two’s programming yesterday or today.
    Hopefully, things will improve … a lot!

  14. tom November 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm -

    Power Rangers is on 6 eps a week but I say 12 eps a week would be better.

    The series ran forever – 1993 to 2009 – and Seven must a massive library of eps.

    It beats old B&W films seen on Monday morning!

  15. billy ray valentine November 2, 2009 at 4:11 pm -

    any chance 7Two could show better homes and gardens at 730pm fridays, allowing 7 to show friday night afl at 7:30pm?

  16. Ben November 2, 2009 at 4:09 pm -

    I think 7 could actually be doing more to act on behalf of the regionals to get this channel on air…

  17. Richard W November 2, 2009 at 2:50 pm -

    First thing on this channel was Packed To The Rafters’ Hugh Sheridan’s lame music clip… wow Channel 7 starting with cross promotions already? Nice work…

  18. Michael November 2, 2009 at 2:24 pm -

    Its got sport on it, aaaarrrhhh.

  19. Peter November 2, 2009 at 2:18 pm -

    everyone dissed GO! before it started, and look at it now
    give 7TWO a few weeks and it’ll grow even bigger then GO!
    if shows like heroes were rating 400k+ in a 10.30 slot on 7, then it should easily get 300k+ on 7TWO in a prime 8.30 slot. you’d assume that viewers that follow a show such as Heroes would be savy enough to have a STB or digital TV. Same goes for Ugly Betty.
    With next weeks movies being Kate & Leopold then Kill Bill Vol 1 and some advertising during the week on both 7 & 7TWO they should pull better numbers

  20. Rob November 2, 2009 at 2:02 pm -

    I’ll reserve judgement on Electric Dreams but not looking good so far. Unfortunately, anything other than boring crap seems to be offered mainstream tv’s radar. Hire the same weathered faces with nothing constructive to say (i.e. don’t pay for a decent scripteditor or writer).

    7TWO ain’t that bad. I watch GO a little and 9 not at all and I think this will be the same. Infact other than ABC, I watch more of the second channels than the main established channel. Goes to say my viewing habits are not mainstream although this includes Wipeout and F1.

  21. Matt F November 2, 2009 at 1:59 pm -

    It’s early days. The only thing I enjoyed was Scrubs & Taking of Pelham 123. *cue Kim Beazley theme*

    I dislike the cross promotion with the main channel. Can’t they come up with better and totally different imaging for 7TWO than what they have on Ch 7? The onyl thing different is the colour scheme. At least GO! is different to Ch 9.

    It was a boring launch.

  22. Tony November 2, 2009 at 1:53 pm -

    Could anyone please advise whether the final season of Lost will be shown on 7TWO only and not the regular channel next year?

  23. Dan November 2, 2009 at 1:52 pm -

    I really enjoyed the MJ concert, that was a good opener to start with. However I did sit through and watched Tom Arnold junk movie, lol – Hey it was better then the junk that was airing on Go on a Sunday night, but must agree it was a pretty terrible movie, I could have flicked it to 7 but why would I want to watch Bones and Castle or Border security?

    I do look forward to Scrubs, so that’s a highlight for me on a Sunday. I’m going to give this channel more chances , only because it’s new and Seven are probably going to tweak it some more.

    Still they have some great content in the evenings though, which is what I’m looking forward to this week. Ugly Betty, Heroes and American Gladiators is my top must watch. :)

  24. morepeopleliveoutsideofthe5capitals November 2, 2009 at 1:52 pm -

    probably not worth the wait by the sounds of last night’s total fizzer – but when is Prime 2 coming???

  25. rattle November 2, 2009 at 1:31 pm -

    Just looking at the guide for the next week and I’m happy with what they are showing.
    Emerdale (weekdays), Last Comic Standing, Strike Force (Shamrock V Diaz on one of the nights), Seasons 4 of Atlantis and Heroes, Reaper and a few other things will all get air time here and it’s all for free, so I’m not complaining.

  26. KFed November 2, 2009 at 1:27 pm -

    Two weeks was not long enough for TV Week to get a new channel into the mag. The guide itself is put together ahead of the main magazine and putting in a new channel would require a redesign of the whole guide. (I’ve worked on guides before and putting them together is an utter nightmare)
    TVW have always prided themselves on being the most comprehensive guide, a conspiracy theory is ridiculous. Seven were secretive and so they missed out.
    And like David pointed out, TVW covers what sells, which is usually Seven programming.
    (PS: I’m not from the mag or speaking on their behalf)

  27. Mer November 2, 2009 at 1:21 pm -

    When is Prime getting 7TWO? All my new shows starting back this week and we can’t get them – Ugly Betty, Heroes, The Unit!!! They should show all New episodes when everyone has access to the channel.

  28. APM November 2, 2009 at 12:55 pm -

    ‘The Ringer’ in SA started around 15 minutes late!

    well, sundays are gonna be movie night on 7TWO while on 7 they have 2 crime shows so at least theres something else to watch instead cause not everyone likes crime shows!

    for those complaining, its the first week so give it some time before it gets better. if you think you can do better with the lineup, why not apply for a programmer position at 7 ;)

    next week they have new Shark and The Unit and at least this week theres returns for Heroes, Ugly Betty and Stargate. plus theres new to FTA – Reaper which would speed up the dvd release. if you say theres nothing good on, that just shows that you watch Too much TV and should be doing something better with your lives!

  29. David Knox November 2, 2009 at 12:48 pm -

    I don’t read much into the ACP connection, why wouldn’t they want it there? And frankly Home & Away dominates TV Week covers more than any other show. I suspect it is a sign of the times for print media. All these channels are fighting for real estate on one page. TVW recently revamped its guide, and now it is being forced to reconsider it again.

    In answer to another question, 7TWO is not block programming like GO! so there is more choice.

  30. Andrew November 2, 2009 at 12:45 pm -

    @Craig: Given that 7TWO’s schedule was out over a week ago that should have been plenty of time to get it into TV Week on sale today. But they are probably not in much hurry to get 7TWO listed seeing that TV Week is connected to Channel Nine!

  31. Alty November 2, 2009 at 12:16 pm -

    Those saying 7TWO is random, has anyone thought how random the main commercial channels are, News, Sport Comedy, Factual programs, Singing Contests. You dont know what to expect? Who would have thought!
    I think the idea of 7TWO is exactly that, a second commercial channel with no theme.At all.
    And judging by the success of the main commerical channels, its a safe option to success.
    Secondly, 7TWO appearing on Prime wouldnt have affected the metro ratings at all even if you did get it.

  32. GuanoLad November 2, 2009 at 12:13 pm -

    Electric Dreams was somewhat meaningless. There wasn’t much substance to it. I was expecting a kind of Reality Show, but at one day per year, it’s not really a struggle to survive in a primitive era.

  33. Macarthurblack November 2, 2009 at 12:00 pm -

    I turned on Channel 10 at 6.30 to see Generation then realised it wasn’t on. I was going to turn off but once started watching Electric Dreams found I was really enjoying it. Not to see how the family coped (couldn’t care less) but just for the nostalgia factor. The Atari, TV, record player and all the furnishings in the house brought back alot of memories. The preview for next week’s show showed the exact Nintendo Game and Watch I still have to this day! Wil watch again.

  34. bindi November 2, 2009 at 11:56 am -

    @craig- just depends on where you are and what guide you get, the one I get has the 7two listings, some will some won’t.

    the programming yesterday and today is deliberately rubbish because the real launch is melbourne cup day. they are going to use the massive number of people watching the race to boost awareness. I think they’ll play a 7two ad right before the race to make sure everyone sees it. They might even do a flashforward style watermark during the race itself, but hopefully they realise now how this will annoy people, but I wouldn’t put it past them.

  35. Andrew B November 2, 2009 at 11:55 am -

    I believe that if daytime counted towards winning the ratings, all networks and channels would improve daytime programming.

    Not bad 1.8% for 7TWO considering what was on. 7TWO should do better than GO in the long term though.

    Problem with Electric Dreams is some products and aspects portrayed in the show as the 70′s don’t make sense to us as we either never had them – like that bedside coffee maker made in the UK – or had different products here.

  36. Paul November 2, 2009 at 11:54 am -

    Well I’m sticking with GO!! and ONE. Much better options. 7Two…. more like 7Two Late.

  37. Janey November 2, 2009 at 11:51 am -

    Electric Dreams did tank in total people, but it did beat Sunday Night in 16-39. Sunday night had over 60% of the 50+ audience watching, so that’s why the extra total people numbers. In 18-49 it was much closer with Sunday Night getting 376,000 and Electric Dreams getting 355,000 (based on Electric Dreams telecast time). There’s just a lot more older people watching Seven at the moment.

  38. Angry Face November 2, 2009 at 11:51 am -

    7TWO would rate better if it aired on Prime.

  39. Harry November 2, 2009 at 11:48 am -

    TEN really need Merlin. It would actually boost Idols figure however it works exceptionally well when partnered with MC.

  40. effdee November 2, 2009 at 11:48 am -

    I must have gone blind, I can’t see it!
    Oh that’s right, I’m in Tasmania!

  41. ryaneco November 2, 2009 at 11:34 am -

    Besides the very few programs 7TWO has on mid-week ala Heroes, Ugly Betty, Repear, The Unit, Sopranoes and Six Feet Under the lineup is pretty shocking.

    I would appreciate some better daytime lineups but its just a mash of sh!t.

    Go has good daytime lineups of older sitcoms and repeats from previous nights etc; Go is programmed in a very superior way to what 7two currently looks like.

  42. Craig November 2, 2009 at 11:32 am -

    Nice start for 7TWO considering the content on yesterday. I guess ONE was helped by the F1 final? And GO! always has a strong Sunday with Wipeout.

    But what I find weird is I just picked up TV Week and still no listings for 7TWO in the TV Guide and not even a mention of the new digital channel!

    How fare ahead are they printed?

  43. Peter November 2, 2009 at 11:31 am -

    i think i remeber the 7TWO guide having the ringer as a first run movie.
    agree though that mchale was a bad choice.
    TEN can’t seem to get it right. Electric Dreams is a great concept. Look at how the brit versions of world’s strictest parents on seven still pulled in huge numbers. while it may be in a tough timeslot, under 600k is laughable

  44. jay jay November 2, 2009 at 11:29 am -

    I think 9 and 10 viewers have lives and go out when the weather is good. 7′s viewers seek airconditioning.

  45. Jed November 2, 2009 at 11:29 am -

    There was nothing to watch on 7TWO. MJ concert followed by Cheetah Girls, no thanks. Tuesdays where the problem is for me, do we know if 7TWO will be like GO! and repeat shows the next day, cos i really need that option to watch some shows.

  46. JohnTV November 2, 2009 at 11:24 am -

    OMG 7TWO programming yesterday and last night was appalling – they showed one of the worst movies ever made – McHale’s Navy. Hardly a reason to get excited about the channel and not a very good way to get people wanting to watch the channel

    The channel seems really random with its programming – atleast with GO! and ONE you know what you are going to get. I know Seven will say that it wants to compliment its main channel but it is a bit random. Maybe they should rename the channel as 7R.

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