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	<title>Comments on: Did we really lose ABC HD?</title>
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		<title>By: snapper jack</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168176</link>
		<dc:creator>snapper jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I meant communion wafer....communial was a term we used for the dunny in the old days...well I guess ripped up pieces of the tv guide is still appropriate :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I meant communion wafer&#8230;.communial was a term we used for the dunny in the old days&#8230;well I guess ripped up pieces of the tv guide is still appropriate <img src='http://www.tvtonight.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: snapper jack</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168173</link>
		<dc:creator>snapper jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Steven guy. thankyou. accepted. And you are right. I was watching a hawk and magpie flying thru the sky this evening, battling each other for turf with the sunset in the back ground. When I used my car keys to rewind the scene I knew I had to lay off the remote for a while..just a little while mind.
@ Josh. amen brother. will start a religion where we use ripped up pieces of the tv guide as the communal wafer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Steven guy. thankyou. accepted. And you are right. I was watching a hawk and magpie flying thru the sky this evening, battling each other for turf with the sunset in the back ground. When I used my car keys to rewind the scene I knew I had to lay off the remote for a while..just a little while mind.<br />
@ Josh. amen brother. will start a religion where we use ripped up pieces of the tv guide as the communal wafer.</p>
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		<title>By: Doyle</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168143</link>
		<dc:creator>Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No we did&#039;nt lose a HD channel, we gained a 24 hour FTA news channel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No we did&#8217;nt lose a HD channel, we gained a 24 hour FTA news channel</p>
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		<title>By: Paull</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168104</link>
		<dc:creator>Paull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh: One extra channel is enough per network. I say that because both GO! &amp; 7two are becoming increasingly rubbish channels, so to allow then to do another one, particularly if it&#039;s just &#039;general entertainment&#039;, would just further degrade their brand. 

I think seven and nine néed to relaunch their second digital channels and make them more specialised- focusing on a particular genre, such as documentaries, lifestyle or movies- just as ten did with its ONEhd and abc&#039;s news 24.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh: One extra channel is enough per network. I say that because both GO! &amp; 7two are becoming increasingly rubbish channels, so to allow then to do another one, particularly if it&#8217;s just &#8216;general entertainment&#8217;, would just further degrade their brand. </p>
<p>I think seven and nine néed to relaunch their second digital channels and make them more specialised- focusing on a particular genre, such as documentaries, lifestyle or movies- just as ten did with its ONEhd and abc&#8217;s news 24.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ steven guy - sorry but im on snapper jack&#039;s side! As soon as TV becomes a religion i will join (that is as long as the religion can only be seen on a channel like Australian Cristian Channel =p )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ steven guy &#8211; sorry but im on snapper jack&#8217;s side! As soon as TV becomes a religion i will join (that is as long as the religion can only be seen on a channel like Australian Cristian Channel =p )</p>
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		<title>By: steven guy</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168056</link>
		<dc:creator>steven guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ snapper jack - sorry, really really sorry !!

But for HD i go outside !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ snapper jack &#8211; sorry, really really sorry !!</p>
<p>But for HD i go outside !</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo M</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168045</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ManoMan

I have just rigged up a HD set-top box to an &quot;oldish&quot; CRT receiver. ABC News 24 is clear, but text is furry. Also, people&#039;s heads and bodies are elongated, squashed from both sides. I have two screen ratios available on the STB - 4:3 and 16:9. However, result is the same on both.  The set itself has no option to change screen ratios. 

Anyone know what&#039;s happening here?</description>
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<p>I have just rigged up a HD set-top box to an &#8220;oldish&#8221; CRT receiver. ABC News 24 is clear, but text is furry. Also, people&#8217;s heads and bodies are elongated, squashed from both sides. I have two screen ratios available on the STB &#8211; 4:3 and 16:9. However, result is the same on both.  The set itself has no option to change screen ratios. </p>
<p>Anyone know what&#8217;s happening here?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168037</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logo burn in is God&#039;s way of telling you to get off your couch and live a little</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logo burn in is God&#8217;s way of telling you to get off your couch and live a little</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a comment on one of the threads on the Channel Ten forums about digital tv and their upcoming third channel and I said I believe all channels should have their main channel their HD channel (9 HD, 7HD and 10HD) and then their additional 2 SD channels their extra channels (with ONE HD being removed and only broadcast in SD). This is my opinion as so much of the content on the main channels is made in HD and it is such a disappointment to see shows on 9 and 7 in HD and not 10. This is my opinion. And in regards to ABC HD im not a fan of ABC in general so i wasnt to worried with them losing their HD channel but i believe it will be a shame if that is to happen to the commercial channels</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a comment on one of the threads on the Channel Ten forums about digital tv and their upcoming third channel and I said I believe all channels should have their main channel their HD channel (9 HD, 7HD and 10HD) and then their additional 2 SD channels their extra channels (with ONE HD being removed and only broadcast in SD). This is my opinion as so much of the content on the main channels is made in HD and it is such a disappointment to see shows on 9 and 7 in HD and not 10. This is my opinion. And in regards to ABC HD im not a fan of ABC in general so i wasnt to worried with them losing their HD channel but i believe it will be a shame if that is to happen to the commercial channels</p>
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		<title>By: Paull</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168013</link>
		<dc:creator>Paull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats true, but only if you are silly enough to leave your tv on the same channel all day. 99.48% of people who watch (or will watch) abc news 24 on an LCD or plasma won&#039;t be keep their tv on that channel 24 hours a day 7 days a week. In fact, most people don&#039;t have their tvs on for more than a couple of hours a day, so they&#039;re never, ever going to have to worry about the issue of screen burn in. 

Sure abc could make the logo semi transparent, but they would also have to do the same to the news ticker at the bottom of the screen, and that would be impractical. 

Unless you have a first generation plasma, I would worry about screen burn in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats true, but only if you are silly enough to leave your tv on the same channel all day. 99.48% of people who watch (or will watch) abc news 24 on an LCD or plasma won&#8217;t be keep their tv on that channel 24 hours a day 7 days a week. In fact, most people don&#8217;t have their tvs on for more than a couple of hours a day, so they&#8217;re never, ever going to have to worry about the issue of screen burn in. </p>
<p>Sure abc could make the logo semi transparent, but they would also have to do the same to the news ticker at the bottom of the screen, and that would be impractical. </p>
<p>Unless you have a first generation plasma, I would worry about screen burn in.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-168010</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rules for HD for the ABC/SBS differ a little meaning upscaled is allowed to count as HD but reality is until digital fully takes over and anti-siphoning rules are resolved (shortly) crazy stuff like B&amp;W movies on HD channels and new US content on 2nd digital low resolution channels will continue. The digital market needs at east another year to mature to have 2 of 3 TV viewers which should be the tipping point for Govt to start noting future changes to rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rules for HD for the ABC/SBS differ a little meaning upscaled is allowed to count as HD but reality is until digital fully takes over and anti-siphoning rules are resolved (shortly) crazy stuff like B&amp;W movies on HD channels and new US content on 2nd digital low resolution channels will continue. The digital market needs at east another year to mature to have 2 of 3 TV viewers which should be the tipping point for Govt to start noting future changes to rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-167969</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a bit of &#039;tornado rampage&#039; on ch7, wasn&#039;t that in 16:9?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a bit of &#8216;tornado rampage&#8217; on ch7, wasn&#8217;t that in 16:9?</p>
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		<title>By: Barrie</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-167926</link>
		<dc:creator>Barrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABC just hasn&#039;t thought about their channels and how to make best use of their bandwidth. ABC2 or ABC3 could become ABC1 HD between 8.30pm-10.30pm, and leave ABC News 24 for the SD channel. It really annoys me how childrens programming is on ABC1,2 &amp; 3 all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABC just hasn&#8217;t thought about their channels and how to make best use of their bandwidth. ABC2 or ABC3 could become ABC1 HD between 8.30pm-10.30pm, and leave ABC News 24 for the SD channel. It really annoys me how childrens programming is on ABC1,2 &amp; 3 all day.</p>
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		<title>By: snapper jack</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-167916</link>
		<dc:creator>snapper jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ steven guy....You take that back. blasphemer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ steven guy&#8230;.You take that back. blasphemer!</p>
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		<title>By: ManoMan</title>
		<link>http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/07/did-we-really-lose-abc-hd.html/comment-page-1#comment-167906</link>
		<dc:creator>ManoMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paull even LCD TVs get burn in. I&#039;ve seen security split views (you know where 4 cameras appear in each corner) and the white cross shape burns in good.

And who says that more bandwidth on the HD channel would help the upscaled SD content from ABC1? I wonder how bad that stuff is originally, didnt the ABC just save a bomb on cheap studios and no staff?
Would the same be true of other production gear? Perhaps their in house transmission of pictures from state news room to newsroom could suffer bandwidth restriction? It is a simple way to save money after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paull even LCD TVs get burn in. I&#8217;ve seen security split views (you know where 4 cameras appear in each corner) and the white cross shape burns in good.</p>
<p>And who says that more bandwidth on the HD channel would help the upscaled SD content from ABC1? I wonder how bad that stuff is originally, didnt the ABC just save a bomb on cheap studios and no staff?<br />
Would the same be true of other production gear? Perhaps their in house transmission of pictures from state news room to newsroom could suffer bandwidth restriction? It is a simple way to save money after all.</p>
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		<title>By: ManoMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ManoMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neon Kitten, there may be viewers that are watching HD via a STB into an old tube TV without letterboxing. Bang ther goes overscan text.

Also, I would guess that they can still sell into markets that are very 4:3, like America or much of asia. They all want stories sourced from local prodiucers like the ABC. we certainly get it from them, have you seen the midday news? American ABC and CBC stories mostly 4:3 and ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neon Kitten, there may be viewers that are watching HD via a STB into an old tube TV without letterboxing. Bang ther goes overscan text.</p>
<p>Also, I would guess that they can still sell into markets that are very 4:3, like America or much of asia. They all want stories sourced from local prodiucers like the ABC. we certainly get it from them, have you seen the midday news? American ABC and CBC stories mostly 4:3 and ugly.</p>
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