Nine to launch new channel before 7mate

By David Knox on August 23, 2010 / Filed Under News 49

“I wanted to call it Dave but everyone said ‘are you joking?’” says David Leckie.

Instead Seven called their new male-skewed channel 7mate.

Presumably nobody thought to ask the same question of that idea.

Dave, of course, mirrors the male-dominated channel in the UK which shows titles like Top Gear, Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps, Red Dwarf and Bottom.

7Mate, which launches on September 25 with the AFL Grand Final, will aim at young males aged 16-39.

Seven CEO David Leckie says the channel “will take a couple of years to make a good profit” but “it will make a profit in year one”.

Advertising will be sold across Seven media properties via SMG Red Unit.

“Anyone in the marketplace will tell you that James Warburton, Kurt Burnette (network director of sales) and their team do a great job selling television, Yahoo!7 and magazines,” he said.

But the Australian Financial Review says Nine has set a date for the launch of its second digital channel, five or six days before Seven launches 7mate. Rumours on Nine’s channel extend from a crime channel, lifestyle channel or a female-skewed channel possibly called GEM.

However, it still requires 8 weeks notice to be included in the OzTAM panel.

AFR also reports Seven is counting on 7mate to correct the failure of 7TWO to broaden the reach of the Seven brand.

“We are very pleased with 7TWO but we think we can do a lot better by the way. GO and ONE are going very well. We saw an opportunity and we are looking forward to it,”  Leckie tells The Australian.

Source: The Australian, afr.com.au

49 Comments »

  1. Phillip Kragulj August 27, 2010 at 6:47 am -

    I don’t even know the name of 9′s 3rd channel

  2. matty August 26, 2010 at 7:41 pm -

    I read the channels on wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeview_Australia and in the list of channels it says 9HD / WIN HD & NBN HD will be closing down in September this year. I guess it’s to make way for 9′s third channel.

  3. Stu August 25, 2010 at 6:35 pm -

    Will foxtel subscribers be able to pick this up?

  4. Robert August 25, 2010 at 5:41 pm -

    Prime have wimped it.

    How tame is “7mate on Prime” when they could have gone with Primate.

  5. Secret Squïrrel August 24, 2010 at 5:15 pm -

    @Paul – your SD set-top box (STB) can’t pick up HD channels even if they are transmitting a program that was made in SD. It’s the data stream not the source content that is the determining factor. If you wish to record something on a HD channel, you will need either a HD STB to feed the signal to whatever you currently use to record, or a HD hard-disk recorder or PVR to record the HD stream directly.

  6. DavidN August 24, 2010 at 4:30 pm -

    I think to advertise ANY of the terrestrial channels as ‘HD’ is a con.

    All of the so-called ‘HD’ channels have precious little ACTUAL HD content. Most of it is up-rezzed SD. Anyway, they’re all transmitting 720p any ways.

    I search the airwaves for any true HD-souced material. I was even hoping the Election coverage was to be HD – nup – all Networks are still shooting and broadcasting news in SD. The ONLY thing HD about any of the coverage was Seven’s logo on the HD channel pasted over the SD telecast….and boy, was that logo sharp compared to the rest of the graphics.

    Free to air SD is shocking on a good 50″ 1080 plasma or LCD. It’s so fuzzy it could ruin your eyesight. So, as I said the majority of ‘HD’ broadcasts are a con.

    BTW – can anyone tell me for certain that ABCNEWS24 is HD or rezzed SD? It sure doesn’t look it. Soft and fuzzy like the rest.

  7. Knowfirst August 24, 2010 at 11:36 am -

    Woody – why?

    Nine CEO David Gyngell confirmed months ago that the technical building aspects of the new channel was underway.

    If they want competitive advantage by launching before Seven, and they’re ready, then good luck to them.

  8. Woody August 24, 2010 at 7:59 am -

    The name 9rushjob springs to mind

  9. Craig August 24, 2010 at 7:19 am -

    Hey Mates! anyone else seen the 7Mate promos?

    IMO this would rate as high as GO! or 7TWO, as each new digital channel gets more specialized they will take less viewers, but I guess the point is the total viewers for the networks when they group the channels.

    But my question is, the viewers have to come from somewhere. So will this mean they will except lower numbers on the main channel from some of their shows if the totals add up?

  10. newtaste August 23, 2010 at 11:19 pm -

    @Bela – i’m guessing that W on Foxtel wouldn’t interest you?

  11. David S. August 23, 2010 at 9:29 pm -

    @moo cow, basically each of the networks has a slice of spectrum for their analogue channel (7MHz) and another slice (also 7MHz) for their digital channels (digital allows between 2 and 4 channels in a single 7Mhz frequency allocation, depending on HD/SD split and so forth). By Dec 2013 all the analogue transmissions cease, whereupon those frequencies revert back to the government and the broadcasters keep their digital allocations (they end up swapping their original analogue frequencies for new digital frequencies but the total bandwidth they get is the same as they had in the analogue era – 7MHz each).

    The government plans to auction off the former analogue TV frequencies for new uses – e.g. 4G mobile phone and wireless internet, possibly some mobile TV, etc. Frequency’s worth big bucks and the government is keen to make as much from it as possible (amazing eh?)

    Originally the idea was that some of that old analogue spectrum would be sold for one or more new DTV networks, but that now seems unlikely – the telcoms and internet companies have more money and the government is constantly being lobbied by the existing networks to not allow any new competitors into their playground.

  12. Bela August 23, 2010 at 7:09 pm -

    As someone who really thinks that channel seven has terrible names i think ‘dave’ would have served better than 7mate LMAO

    i think the stuff on 7two is atrocious. i quite lkike a lot of the stuff on Go. and i only watch the snow shows on One and any other extreme sporting show that i notice while flicking through. Ten has gone in a horrendous downward spiral where it used to have a lot of shows i loved to nothing in recent times. and i very rarely watch seven andnine. and only one show from nine. i don’t think i’lkl like gem. im a tom boy and i don’t like girly shows …. but im for Go! atm. I’m waiting for ten to redeem themselves but im not holding out hope

  13. Paull August 23, 2010 at 6:57 pm -

    At least Nine is targeting its new HD channel, as opposed to 7 which is essentially creating another ‘general entertainment’ channel. Yes I’m aware of the fact that it’s meant to be male-oriented, but half those shows there don’t interest me one bit and the line up seems to be quite similar to 7two.
    It’s a pitty that we’re losing the HD simu-cast of both nine and 7 though, particularly nine who actually bothered to upgrade their news cameras to HD. I’m hoping they find time to put the nightly news on their hd channels, and other important shows.

  14. newtaste August 23, 2010 at 6:37 pm -

    knowfirst – I have the paper, and that’s not how it starts in my copy, but I now accept that the online version must be different. Sorry!

  15. Butters August 23, 2010 at 6:16 pm -

    Channel 63 has been renamed from “Prime View 3″ to “7mate on Prime”

  16. Knowfirst August 23, 2010 at 5:40 pm -

    Newtaste – maybe your AFR is different, but mine starts off this way:

    “Nine Network has set a date for the launch of its second digital channel Five Or Six Days before arch-rival Seven Network reveals its new channel 7mate.

  17. Paul August 23, 2010 at 5:12 pm -

    Can someone help me? I have a SD Digital Set Top Box that I record shows on and a HD Tv. I know that I can watch the new channels on the TV, but to record them do I need to buy a HD Set Top Box? I’m just confused since it seems that very few programs will actually be in HD, so though the channel is in HD would I still be able to tape the programs that are in SD on the HD channel?

    Thanks..

  18. Andrew August 23, 2010 at 5:11 pm -

    Just keep those digital channels coming,Do we really care if its in HD or SD as for the picture quality on my screen,the difference between the two is very little.

  19. moo cow August 23, 2010 at 4:30 pm -

    I don’t get the logistics of it all but why is it impossible for there to be more bandwidth for more channels and have them in HD? Have they been given a allocated amount or something?

  20. David Knox August 23, 2010 at 4:07 pm -

    AFR also reported in Media Week.

  21. David S. August 23, 2010 at 4:02 pm -

    Grinspoon, there’s no need for extra bandwidth. 7mate (HD) will replace 7HD and Nine’s new channel will replace Nine HD (or if rumours are correct GO! will go HD, replacing Nine HD, and the new channel will be SD taking over GO!’s former SD slot). TEN’s new channel will presumably just replace the useless One Digital (SD) leaving OneHD and TEN Digital as is.

    The picture quality won’t be any worse than it is now, but it won’t be any better either (well, aside from GO! if it becomes HD of course). Of course the most logical arrangement would be for all the network’s main digital channels to be HD and the secondary multichannels to be SD, but until the analogue switch off in 2013 that’s not allowed, the main digital channels have to be SD.

  22. newtaste August 23, 2010 at 3:59 pm -

    I have the AFR, and the article does mention that Nine and Ten are launching new channels, Ten in 2011 and that Nine’s launch is ‘close’. But it doesn’t claim that Nine will launch 5 or 6 days before 7mate, and neither does the article in The Australian. Do you have another source you haven’t referenced?

  23. Bazza August 23, 2010 at 3:33 pm -

    @David S

    Ah ha! That’s it, it’ll be the channel 9 nostalgia channel…. With screenings of all their favourites from way back when they were #1. Think of it, wall to wall Hey Hey, Paul Hogan, Kerri Anne… This wasn’t a good week to give up drinking.

  24. Knowfirst August 23, 2010 at 3:03 pm -

    Apart from a bit of extra work by the programming team and the on-air presentation people, why can’t the networks intertwine their HD material with the new channels?

    Thus if Nine does Crime:

    5.30-9am Today
    9am The Mentalist
    10am Cold Case
    11am News
    12 Ellen
    1 The View
    2 Rockford Files

    etc etc

    Just need a promo saying “NineCrime will be back at 2, now Nine in crystal-clear HD”

    Show some initiative! :)

  25. Grinspoon August 23, 2010 at 2:56 pm -

    Did the channels every get more bandwidth for the channels, or are they lower the quality of everything again?

  26. Chloe August 23, 2010 at 2:48 pm -

    I know the programming is meant to be directed at men, but a lot of the shows they’ve lined up I would watch, or already do watch. Sure, they’re aiming it at a male demographic, but it’s not the best male-oriented line-up they could have, especially when you see what they air on the UK men’s channel.

  27. merlin August 23, 2010 at 2:42 pm -

    No we don’t need Crime it’s bad enough seeing it on the main channels, Lifestyle is boring, and female-skewed is not what i want. I think GO! and 7mate will be the best channels and Ten’s third channel will be good if we can see shows like Smallville, Supernatural, Stargate Universe. Speaking of Ten’s third channel if nine and seven going to launch their 3rd channel channel ten will have to get their channel launching.

  28. David Knox August 23, 2010 at 2:24 pm -

    It is noted towards the end of the article.

  29. CJ August 23, 2010 at 2:23 pm -

    This article has nothing to do with what the headline says….? Where is the info on Nine’s new channel?

  30. David S. August 23, 2010 at 2:17 pm -

    Not lifestyle, not crime, not a chick channel – Nine, Australia has voted and shown the world we love cooking shows more than anything. The IronMasterCookingChef channel, 24 X 7 (in HD of course). With a bit of home/backyard renovation on the weekends. Just for the nostalgia.

  31. Andrew B August 23, 2010 at 1:49 pm -

    The sad fact of these two third cahnnels launching is that all free to air HD TV content on Australia will be restrcited only to a few niche channels while their best content on their main channels will not be seen in HD in most cases. The way FOX8 promote Glee as a first in HD on FOX8HD says it all.

    Other sources will quickly take over as being the main providers of HD content in Australia – especially as the National Broadband Network rolls out, and as Foxtel continues to add more HD channels – while free to air TV will be left behind.

  32. Dave August 23, 2010 at 1:44 pm -

    Seven’s channel should have been called ” 7m8 ” as that would have been far more receptive to the target audience. It also would provide a far more compact watermark.
    No doubt Seven will have an hideously wide watermark stretching a third of the way across the screen with “7mate”!
    But Seven will lose my interest by no longer showing prime time premiere programming in HD on the main channel. Now is not the time to be reducing the amount of content shown in native HD. The same goes for channel Nine.

  33. Ellis August 23, 2010 at 1:28 pm -

    So basically, Nine are running scared and are going to launch a channel that probably needs a lot more work and is only half-planned. Perhaps if Seven and Nine stopped with the measuring competition and actually thought things through we the viewers wouldn’t be complaining so much!!!

  34. Anthony August 23, 2010 at 1:16 pm -

    “crime channel, lifestyle channel or a female-skewed channel”

    I definitely wont be watching then.

  35. alex August 23, 2010 at 12:55 pm -

    stop complainingjust wait and see what happens first

  36. Gil August 23, 2010 at 12:24 pm -

    Move the Sopranos to 7mate and show it at a reasonable time, Garry Unmarried is a shocker.

  37. David Knox August 23, 2010 at 12:17 pm -

    Which would reflect exactly what I wrote last week.

  38. Knowfirst August 23, 2010 at 12:16 pm -

    James Joyce from the Newcastle Herald told KOFM today that Prime has said it’s “probable” 7mate will launch for them at the same time.

  39. Bazza August 23, 2010 at 10:42 am -

    Channel 9.5 – all 2.5 Men, all the time.

    Actually I was nearly going to say it will be a shame to lose 9HD, but when I think about it, there’s only one show I watch on it, Top Gear, which I’m willing to bet will run on the new one.

  40. Nicholas Lawrence August 23, 2010 at 10:18 am -

    I wouldn’t mind a Crime network but only if they brought shows like Nero Wolfe or Murder Call to it. It needs to expand to the properly broad spectrum of Crime shows.

    I mean it might not be that bad, just think we could get Inspector Rex on a comercial network sponsored by Pedigree.

  41. Woody August 23, 2010 at 10:08 am -

    I hope it’s nothing but 24 hour loop of Laurie Oakes in the shower

  42. JB August 23, 2010 at 9:52 am -

    Why would they launch with the AFL Grand Final, wouldn’t they cut into the main channels figures? And it’s not really a great message that your new digital channel has the exact same things on as your main channel.

  43. Ben August 23, 2010 at 9:18 am -

    Not a crime channel. There is enough of that stuff already!!!! A lifestyle channel would flop.

  44. wamdue August 23, 2010 at 8:57 am -

    Did they seriously consider calling 7mates Dave?

  45. Richard W August 23, 2010 at 8:46 am -

    Great, so does this mean Nine HD will go now aswell?

  46. Will August 23, 2010 at 8:28 am -

    and this channel will be on WIN months before Mate is broadcast by Prime, in my opinion. Prove me wrong Prime!!!!!!!

  47. Bre Saxs August 23, 2010 at 7:33 am -

    Um, in this article I can’t find anything about Channel 9. Is this a joke?

  48. nicholasg August 23, 2010 at 7:27 am -

    whatever 7 or 9 name their new channels, can they please realise that many people are watching past 1am and find the shopping and religious shows thin on script, plot and entertainment.

  49. RichoTB August 23, 2010 at 6:22 am -

    Nein #3 might show all the shows they played for two weeks on Nein’s #1 channel before being bumped to werewolf timeslots!

    Wait…no, it will show all the shows they played for two weeks on GO!, the secondary channel! before being bumped to werewolf timeslots!

    But…sorry to disappoint, they’ll only last two weeks before All being bumped to a werewolf timeslot.

    Big Bang Theory and Top Gear six times a day, eat your heart out.

    Hey, there’s hope for Nine’s fourth channel!

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